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post #211 of 274

I went through the same process you did - many rigs.  Then finally purchased the Stax SR-009 and SRM727II.  Of course, YMMV, but I am extremely pleased.

post #212 of 274
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I've talked to several people at my office about high-end headphones and speakers today. I showed our secretary the SR-009's online and I told her I'm buying them, and she asked "Are they better than Beats?"

 

I answered, "Yes, they are better than Beats." I'm thinking that it'll be fun to have my set-up at our office one day where I can expose some people to the world of high fidelity audio. :)

post #213 of 274
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I'm thinking that it'll be fun to have my set-up at our office one day where I can expose some people to the world of high fidelity audio. :)

 

Unfortunately, they'll probably just think you're weird. In fact, they probably already think you're a bit weird :o)

post #214 of 274
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Unfortunately, they'll probably just think you're weird. In fact, they probably already think you're a bit weird :o)

 

Oh, they know I'm a bit weird, but it will still be interesting to see their reactions to the SR-009 w/ BHSE and the HD 800's. Some at the office already heard the HD 800's when I bought them a little less than a year ago.

post #215 of 274

^^^ forget it. any regular mortals will just nod their head in appreciation of the headphone/system. Once they found out the price, they will think you are on drugs or on drugs when buying the headphone. Leave it. Those headphones are strictly for people like us here, who can appreciate it. Trust me, I've been through this.......

post #216 of 274
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Originally Posted by jackskelly View Post

I've talked to several people at my office about high-end headphones and speakers today. I showed our secretary the SR-009's online and I told her I'm buying them, and she asked "Are they better than Beats?"

 

I answered, "Yes, they are better than Beats." I'm thinking that it'll be fun to have my set-up at our office one day where I can expose some people to the world of high fidelity audio. :)

Hello jackskelly

 

I had the same idea but, thinking it over, I can imagine how the colleagues (or friends, or parents...) would react considering the size and weight of the whole combo (power adaptor, CD reader, headphones amp and finally the headphones -not to mention the monstrous cables). And when you tell them it has to warm up at least 30 mn to give good results... And when they ask for the prices...

post #217 of 274
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How much more unforgiving are the SR-009's than the HD 800's? What are people's opinions on that? I'm still awaiting my SR-009's, and I'm listening to a vinyl recording of The Doobie Brothers pressed in the the 1970's via my HD 800's, and I can hear every little distortion and flaw on the recording pretty easily. From what I remember, the SR-009's were more musical than the HD 800's when I tested them out. I just can't hold my excitement, :), it's hard to imagine a headphone or speaker extracting more detail from a recording, I'm convinced it may sound pretty painstaking once I do get them tongue.gif.

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How much more unforgiving are the SR-009's than the HD 800's? What are people's opinions on that? I'm still awaiting my SR-009's, and I'm listening to a vinyl recording of The Doobie Brothers pressed in the the 1970's via my HD 800's, and I can hear every little distortion and flaw on the recording pretty easily. From what I remember, the SR-009's were more musical than the HD 800's when I tested them out. I just can't hold my excitement, :), it's hard to imagine a headphone or speaker extracting more detail from a recording, I'm convinced it may sound pretty painstaking once I do get them tongue.gif.

Ruthlessly so....I can hear things with my SR-009s on recordings (good and bad) that I've somehow managed to miss with my HD-800s.

 

Congrats! Simply the best cans I've ever heard!

post #219 of 274
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So it's unforgiving in a very good-sounding way, biggrin.gif, I'm glad for that, because sometimes I get exhausted of hearing the imperfections with my HD 800's, I probably just need to get better records and a record cleaning machine tongue.gif

post #220 of 274
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...and a better turntable, cart, cables...of course. One step at a time...

post #221 of 274

with the weaker yen, it's only $3400 now from pricejapan... someone stop me...
 

post #222 of 274

That "ruthlessly more revealing" as mentioned a few posts above is always a scary thing.  One always has to wonder what the headphone is bringing to the party that it can often sound ruthless with many recordings.  Often with speakers and headphones, when something is that ruthless with a good number of recordings it indeed is bringing some of its character along, in addition to being transparent and detailed.

 

If you experiment with equalizers it is very easy to tone shape from 2-5khz and then from 8khz up, by small amounts which do not jump out in a frequency response curve, yet anyone would swear there is more detail and the transducer is better.  A 1/2 db difference over a wide span of frequencies results in quite a difference in perceived sound.  

 

Now, instead of just upping the response a bit, without introducing different harmonics, consider a transducer that has resonances creating  some of that response lift.  Now there will be more harmonics that were not on the record or digital file, some sounding bad.  This is what we have with many speakers or headphones"so detailed that you must have a perfect record disc to play them".  A very well known speaker company making very expensive speakers has a metal tweeter that rings, introducing a sound that seems very detailed and clear, yet also offensive to many listeners..  Defenders say "these speakers are so clear they show every fault".  Non-defenders say "that ringing and distortion are at levels where if you add any more harshness or distortion it will tilt the speakers into the "nasty sounding" territory, and if you listen closely you will hear hints of this even on great recordings."  

 

So, it is always a difficult question whether a component is super clear sounding, yet super sensitive to recording quality, due to some of its own character. or just due to its clarity, or both. Owners will always say, of course, that super sensitivity to recordings merely indicates the perfection of the units.  "So clear you can't even play any recordings or they will hurt your ears, but if we had a PERFECT recording you'd see how great they are" is my parody on this line of reasoning. 

 

Having many headphones and speakers to compare makes the sorting out easier.  When you hear a device that delivers all the detail, yet is easier on the ears, you can be pretty sure that the "super sensitive" one is adding some of its own character.

 

I'm now waiting for the next Stax, since I am guessing the pendulum will swing slightly in the other direction, toward being a littler more forgiving sounding.  I am guessing  the same holds true for the next Sennheiser headphones.


Edited by Operakid - 4/11/13 at 5:33am
post #223 of 274
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with the weaker yen, it's only $3400 now from pricejapan... someone stop me...

 
This makes my heart ache.
post #224 of 274
At this rate, we are gonna see a sub-$3k used SR-009 up FS soon. cool.gif
post #225 of 274
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Originally Posted by takezo View Post

with the weaker yen, it's only $3400 now from pricejapan... someone stop me...
 

I make it $3,487 today with shipping etc. But still good.

 

But the real killers are the import/VAT duties of your country and the bank's currency exchange fees.

These can be greatly minimised if (1) PJ understate the value on the customs form and (2) if the bank transfer is in local currency (eg USD) rather than Yen.

 

Can anyone say what happens in practice on these two points?

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