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post #151 of 274
Yeah, but staxs is VERY transparent to source and cables. Silverplated copper has a annoying sound that i can't take in the long run. It just can't sound natural with that HIFI brightness.

Some might find spc cables sounds more transparent as the high FR comes faster then the lower mids and bass. But it just sound unatural and bright.
post #152 of 274
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Yeah, but staxs is VERY transparent to source and cables. Silverplated copper has a annoying sound that i can't take in the long run. It just can't sound natural with that HIFI brightness.

Some might find spc cables sounds more transparent as the high FR comes faster then the lower mids and bass. But it just sound unatural and bright.

 

Very interested in understanding more about this. Can you point me to any sources that have tested for and demonstrated the phenomenon you describe - ie the different speeds at which the different frequencies travel as a result of being plated vs not plated?
post #153 of 274

"Since silver is a better conductor than copper, the silver plating causes any frequencies on the "skin" of the wire to travel better and faster than the frequencies in the "core" of the wire. Since it is well known that the "skin effect" is a result of high frequencies traveling on the "skin" of the wire, and low frequencies traveling in the core, adding silver plating to the "skin" of the wire will only make the "skin effect" worse than no plating. The high frequencies will travel better and faster, and arrive at the speaker before the low frequencies will, thereby "smearing" the coherence of the signal. The effect will be bright and brash, with added time-distortion, that IMO, will do nothing good for the system. I personally would not use it"

post #154 of 274

I fear the problem is not with the cable but with the diaphragm.  Same problems as when Stax went to the 1um diaphragm in 1987. 

 

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IHeck, Spritzer never seem to like the HE90 which I happen to really like.  wink_face.gif

 

 

Not 100% true, stock they are not my cup of tea but throw out those Sennheiser drivers and stick in Stax Lambda Nova Signature drivers and I really, really like them.  redface.gif  So balanced and effortless that it more than makes up for the slight bass roll off and ever so slightly thin sound.  These can also throw a proper soundstage that is not covered in fog.  I've been on a bit of an amplifier building craze lately and they shine off anything I throw at them. 

post #155 of 274
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Originally Posted by t-h-e-p-i-m-p View Post

"Since silver is a better conductor than copper, the silver plating causes any frequencies on the "skin" of the wire to travel better and faster than the frequencies in the "core" of the wire. Since it is well known that the "skin effect" is a result of high frequencies traveling on the "skin" of the wire, and low frequencies traveling in the core, adding silver plating to the "skin" of the wire will only make the "skin effect" worse than no plating. The high frequencies will travel better and faster, and arrive at the speaker before the low frequencies will, thereby "smearing" the coherence of the signal. The effect will be bright and brash, with added time-distortion, that IMO, will do nothing good for the system. I personally would not use it"

 

Thanks for that. I appreciate the hypothesis, and certainly interesting stuff, but wondering if you are aware of whether there is anyone who has actually demonstrated this effect with measurements - wouldn't think it would be difficult to do with the right equipment..
post #156 of 274

it's great when there's doubts, no one is sure. But i bet that u don't care for my thoughts after the recabling wink_face.gif

 

 

About measurements - I've not seen any. But you can easily find peoples experience about spc cables. They can be more useful then measurements, sometimes...

post #157 of 274
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http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/listening-great-headphone-amplifiers-and-stax-sr-900

 

I'm reading Tyll's article. I probably can't go wrong with any of these amps. It seems I'd have to wait several months for most of them though even after I order it.

post #158 of 274
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It seems like the BHSE has had a lot of good press. If I go that route, do I really need the Alps RK50 option for $1,000 more?

post #159 of 274
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http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/listening-great-headphone-amplifiers-and-stax-sr-900

 

I'm reading Tyll's article. I probably can't go wrong with any of these amps. It seems I'd have to wait several months for most of them though even after I order it.

on the plus side, you will also be waiting several months for the SR-009 :)  the lead time has really grown.  get them while you can find them.

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post #160 of 274
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on the plus side, you will also be waiting several months for the SR-009 :)  the lead time has really grown.  get them while you can find them.

 

Justin, would you be able to tell me about the Alps RK50 option? What is the advantage to getting it?

 

Thanks

post #161 of 274
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it's great when there's doubts, no one is sure. But i bet that u don't care for my thoughts after the recabling wink_face.gif

 

 

About measurements - I've not seen any. But you can easily find peoples experience about spc cables. They can be more useful then measurements, sometimes...

 

Actually, to the contrary, I am very interested in the topic, but have had great difficulty locating any objective measurements demonstrating a phenomenon that should be measurable. As such, I thought perhaps you might be aware of some sources that I am not. Impressionistic comments are always welcome, as that is mostly what gets posted here since hearing impressions necessarily deal with what each individual recalls hearing at any given point in time, and is the only way to share listening experiences. So the question doesn't relate to whether you or I would hear a difference or not, but whether anyone has actually tested this theory.
post #162 of 274

"bet that u don't care for my thoughts after the recabling " part was referred to spritzer

post #163 of 274

Let's put it this way, I know how little cables matter in the grand scheme of things and how crucial the correct tension is on the diaphragm. 

post #164 of 274
I get your point. But using spc will make ANY setup annoying. Im not a crazy cable believer and it's great that you accept spc side effects.

ll stop naggin and rewire 009 march-april.
Edited by t-h-e-p-i-m-p - 2/21/13 at 12:32pm
post #165 of 274
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Justin, would you be able to tell me about the Alps RK50 option? What is the advantage to getting it?

 

Thanks

Perfect volume control at all range as it is continuous and not a "step" in ladder like the stepped attenuator.  If you have the fund, go for it.

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