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post #106 of 258
1/28/13 at 7:45pm
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Yeah, it's on there, he put it on there. I'll take more pictures of it to prove to you it's my neighbor, I'm not lying.

 

Man, that never crossed my mind. That system is awesome.

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post #107 of 258
1/28/13 at 8:04pm
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That turntable and stand is around $75,000 alone.

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post #108 of 258
1/28/13 at 8:20pm
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Well I was finally able to test out a Stax SR-009 yesterday at James's place, head-fi handle lithe1. He had it paired with his Cavalli Liquid Lightning. I did a direct comparison with my HD 800, and I do have to admit that overall the SR-009 is superior to the HD 800, not in every aspect, but most. The imaging of the HD 800 is still superior, though not by much. The SR-009 definitely beats the HD 800 in detail, clarity, and transparency. I would say the HD 800 is 90% there overall, and definitely a better value for the price, but that doesn't really matter much when you're trying to get to headphone nirvana. So I do think I'll have to buy one eventually, not now, but hopefully sometime this year. I'm still using the stock cable on my HD 800, so I could switch to a better cable or a balanced cable and upgrade my amp, but if I'm going to do that, I figure I might as well invest in the SR-009 and an amp.

Thanks again James for letting me hear your SR-009, and to everyone else on this thread.

You are certainly welcome, Jack, and I think if you've had more listening time (with a wider array of music genres than we were trying to fit in with the time we had yesterday) with the SR-009 then you may well start to think that the 90% for the HD 800 may actually be lesser...but I do think a lot of it is subjective. In any event, the law of diminishing returns is definitely at play when equipment at the level of SR-009 is part of the equation, and that such "value" is in the eye of the beholder. smily_headphones1.gif

In my opinion, I personally felt your HD 800's were more like 75% there overall with the SR-009's, but I've had a lot more "seat time" with the SR-009's, so maybe I was able to notice the nuances better.

By the way, your neighbor's system definitely looks wicked and it appears that it should sound pretty wicked, too...I may actually have to make a trip there to have a listening session, but I'm hesitant to do so, or else I may get bit by the speaker system bug.
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post #109 of 258
1/28/13 at 8:26pm
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Thanks again James,

 

You've got to hear Fred's system. For classical, nothing can really beat it. Except for live performances, which we're going to see this Thursday, Mahler's 1st symphony performed by the Houston Symphony. Just let me know when you want to come by. For certain genres, yeah, the HD 800 may only be a certain portion of the SR-009, maybe 60 to 80 percent, but for others, it may be closer to 95, it really depends.


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post #110 of 258
1/28/13 at 8:55pm
My apologies for the quintuple - no less - post... That's what happens when you use a cell phone while riding the subway in tokyo...

Amen to the mention about music style. I was going to add I listen prominently to small ensembles, jazz or modern. For large orchestral works, I can imagine one would want as large a headstage the headphone can throw. Also, I assume the placement with the HD800 gets better as you go up the chain with the amplification (assuming you're doing reasonably well with the source as starting point).

For the horn loaded drivers in a hard wall room, I'd say it's likely not for me smily_headphones1.gif
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post #111 of 258
1/28/13 at 8:55pm
And a double post while mentioning the quintuple post... I foresee the infinite loop!
Edited by arnaud - 1/28/13 at 8:59pm
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post #112 of 258
1/29/13 at 6:52am
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Yeah, it's on there, he put it on there. I'll take more pictures of it to prove to you it's my neighbor, I'm not lying.

This speaker system is the German AvantGarde Trio. But the sub-bass component is missing... Is it the fact that in its ultimate version, its weight approaches the ton? Maybe you neighbor is a bit short of money or ambition, jackskelly.

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post #113 of 258
1/29/13 at 6:57am

It is not the German AvantGarde Trio.

 

It is the Danish Acapella Triolon Excalibur.

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post #114 of 258
1/29/13 at 7:08am

Whatever, they're both ridonk-ly priced horns... rolleyes.gif

 

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It is not the German AvantGarde Trio.

 

It is the Danish Acapella Triolon Excalibur.

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post #115 of 258
1/29/13 at 8:05am
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It is not the German Advantaged Trio.

 

It is the Danish Capella Triolon Excalibur.

 

That's correct. Acapella has 2 models even above that, as you can see from their website. Fred said there are only around 5 or 6 pairs of the Triolon Excalibur's in North America, and that he doesn't know of anyone on this side of the world with the two models above that (the Spharon and Spharon Excalibur).


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post #116 of 258
1/29/13 at 8:37am
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That's correct. Acapella has 2 models even above that, as you can see from their website. Fred said there are only around 5 or 6 pairs of the Triolon Excalibur's in North America, and that he doesn't know of anyone on this side of the world with the two models above that (the Spharon and Spharon Excalibur).

Ok headphoners, but have a look at this: http://www.avantgarde-acoustic.com/trio-product-en.html

 

Who copied from who? Another possibility: the German AvantGarde and the Danish (A)capella are a sole entity. Globalization and world economy...

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post #117 of 258
1/29/13 at 8:45am

Avantgarde copied from Acapella.  Acapella started in the 70's (I think they might have been called something else back then), AG much later.  That's why Acapella includes the big "the inventor of spherical horns" on their homepage. 

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post #118 of 258
1/29/13 at 1:40pm
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I asked this on another thread (having to with an Orpheus at CES 2013), but I might get better answers here:

 

Has anyone heard both the Orpheus system and a Stax SR-009 system (with an amp like BHSE, LL, etc.)? What similarities and differences did you notice? It would interesting to see how the two compare.


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post #119 of 258
1/29/13 at 1:57pm
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I asked this on another thread (having to with an Orpheus at CES 2013), but I might get better answers here:

 

Has anyone heard both the Orpheus system and a Stax SR-009 system (with an amp life BHSE, LL, etc.)? What similarities and differences did you notice? It would interesting to see how the two compare.

Someone who owns the Aristaeus might have a good idea, assuming they have both headphones.

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post #120 of 258
1/29/13 at 4:55pm
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Whatever, they're both ridonk-ly priced horns... rolleyes.gif

 

 

Yeah, if you asked me would I rather have a $500k system like that, or give me $500k and I spend a fraction of that on a system and keep the rest, right now I would take the money and build a "modest" $30k or so system. :D

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