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Fiio E17 and iPhone 5 - what about DAC

post #1 of 8
12/4/12 at 1:28pm
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Reading a lot about DAC and iPhones and them not working. How about the new iPhone 5 and THE E17? Does THE DAC work with the headphone jack? Want to buy an E17 and AKG K 272HD.
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post #2 of 8
12/6/12 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by JulienH View Post

Reading a lot about DAC and iPhones and them not working. How about the new iPhone 5 and THE E17? Does THE DAC work with the headphone jack? Want to buy an E17 and AKG K 272HD.

 

Apple still require that their specific chip be used to extract digital audio from the dock, and headphone jacks only support analogue, so it's a no on both counts unfortunately.

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post #3 of 8
12/8/12 at 8:38am
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Is there another amp/dac that will work then? I love Apple, but this turns out to be a bit dissapointing. Never had the need to spend some money on a better headphone and since I like the looks of the AKG very much, I probably need an amp. So any suggestions on this are welcome!

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post #4 of 8
12/8/12 at 3:37pm
I'm using the E17 with the LOD connector on my iPhone 4S and love the sound, can't say I'm unhappy with the on board DAC in the phone, however reports do suggest that the 5 has some sound quality issues.

The Fostex HP P1 is iPhone certified so it will bypass the internal DAC, only issue will be using the lightning adaptor..yet another bit of plastic to cart around...oh and the HP P1 is around £400...
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post #5 of 8
12/9/12 at 12:01am
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Originally Posted by JulienH View Post

Reading a lot about DAC and iPhones and them not working. How about the new iPhone 5 and THE E17? Does THE DAC work with the headphone jack? Want to buy an E17 and AKG K 272HD.

I'm assuming your iPhone 5 comes with the new 8-pin port?

So you need to see if someone makes a cable that will connect the Apple 8-pin port to a the E17's USB port.

 

Or just get a Fiio E11 portable headphone amplifier ($60) and connect the iPhone's headphone jack to the E11 line-in port.

You could also use the Fiio E07K the same way as the E11 or E17.

 

What price are the AKG K272HD?

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post #6 of 8
12/9/12 at 2:27am
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I can buy the AKG for around the 170 dollar. Is a LOD connector for iPhone 5 also an option (if available)?
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post #7 of 8
12/14/12 at 5:10am
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I can buy the AKG for around the 170 dollar. Is a LOD connector for iPhone 5 also an option (if available)?

Unfortunately LODs only extract analogue audio whereas the thunderbolt port only outputs digitally, you'd need to get the thunderbolt>30 pin adaptor into which you could plug an LOD.

 

In terms of DAC/amp combinations that will work, you're going to be looking at the expensive class of products that have the Apple authorised chip I mentioned previously. The most notable example is the Fostex HP-P1, but there's also products from Go-DAP that do the same job. The Cypher Labs Algorithm Solo line can act as DACs, but need separate amps.

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post #8 of 8
12/14/12 at 11:48am

just swapped my iphone 5 for a galaxy s3 and bought the fiio e07k.

 

even though jellybean isn't as "polished" as iOS i'm glad i switched.  

 

still have my classic, ipad and 5.5g so won't miss much.

 

cheap portable 96/24 beyersmile.png FTW

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