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I don't think I'll need it now that I think about it. Will pull the E09K (replaced by a Magni) from my gaming rig and combine that with my E07K at the office and that will take care of my needs there. Honestly, I just need to replace all of my FiiO amps and dacs because I've just grown unhappy with them. Will probably replace the E09K/E07K at work with a simple Vali/Modi combo instead.

As owner of FiiO E07k and E09k combo with FiiO A1 may I ask what made you unhappy?
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As owner of FiiO E07k and E09k combo with FiiO A1 may I ask what made you unhappy?

Well I have a preference for cans that lean slightly to the brighter side. I find all of my FiiO products (E07K, E09K, E10) push things even brighter, but in a way where the treble sounds a little unruly and not detailed anymore. All of them. It's not as bad as I'm making it sound. I'm just finding I'm getting much more sensitive to the synergy between a can, an amp, and a dac. Budget conscience buyers will find a lot of value in FiiO, although I would argue there are products out there competing in the same market and price range that work better. Still, for the price, they do the job.

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Originally Posted by Moolok View Post


As owner of FiiO E07k and E09k combo with FiiO A1 may I ask what made you unhappy?

Well I have a preference for cans that lean slightly to the brighter side. I find all of my FiiO products (E07K, E09K, E10) push things even brighter, but in a way where the treble sounds a little unruly and not detailed anymore. All of them. It's not as bad as I'm making it sound. I'm just finding I'm getting much more sensitive to the synergy between a can, an amp, and a dac. Budget conscience buyers will find a lot of value in FiiO, although I would argue there are products out there competing in the same market and price range that work better. Still, for the price, they do the job.

I see, thank you for a detailed explanation smily_headphones1.gif
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Well I have a preference for cans that lean slightly to the brighter side. I find all of my FiiO products (E07K, E09K, E10) push things even brighter, but in a way where the treble sounds a little unruly and not detailed anymore. All of them. It's not as bad as I'm making it sound. I'm just finding I'm getting much more sensitive to the synergy between a can, an amp, and a dac. Budget conscience buyers will find a lot of value in FiiO, although I would argue there are products out there competing in the same market and price range that work better. Still, for the price, they do the job.

You are better off with tubes biggrin.gif
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I'm staring to find that out!

 

So some questions. I have the E09K and E07K connected in my office right now to my laptop. Everything seems to be connected correctly. I'm a little upset volume on the E07K still works and actual does manipulate the sound. It seems like that should be something that is immediately disabled when you connect it to an E09K. I have it turned all the way up to 60 and am just controlling it through the E09K. Anyway, I can run my SR325is and DT 770 Pro off of them and they sound ok. I've even thrown some Vmoda Vibe IEMs and Porta Pros on them and they were ok. When I run my PX 100-II off of them, it's just a distorted mess, the volume needs to be fairly high to hear anything at all, and separation and stereo go away completely (everything is mono). I verified nothing is wrong with the PX 100-II by connecting it to my phone and headphone jack on the laptop directly. Sounds great through there. I thought maybe it's a sensitivity issue, but the E09K is suppose to support cans between 16 Ω and 600 Ω. The PX 100-II is 32 Ω.

 

Why is this happening with just this can?

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I'm a little upset volume on the E07K still works and actual does manipulate the sound. It seems like that should be something that is immediately disabled when you connect it to an E09K. I have it turned all the way up to 60 and am just controlling it through the E09K.
Have you enabled the Lo Bypass on E07k? It's located on the right side of unit. You need a ballpoint pen or something like that to move the slider. It bypasses the controls on E07k and only E09k adjust the volume when docked in.
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Have you enabled the Lo Bypass on E07k? It's located on the right side of unit. You need a ballpoint pen or something like that to move the slider. It bypasses the controls on E07k and only E09k adjust the volume when docked in.

I... have not. Done now. What exactly does that do?

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Flipped it and that fixed the volume controls, but the PX 100-II still sounds like absolute garbage. Thoughts?

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Flipped it and that fixed the volume controls, but the PX 100-II still sounds like absolute garbage. Thoughts?

Hmm... Both PX 100-II and SR325is are 32 ohm and DT 770 pro is 250 ohm. On what position is the gain switch at the rear of the E09k? Pull it down for low impedance and high sensitivity headphones and up for high impedance and low sensivity. I keep it up for my 120 ohm K601 and 150 ohm HD330.
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Hmm... Both PX 100-II and SR325is are 32 ohm and DT 770 pro is 250 ohm. On what position is the gain switch at the rear of the E09k? Pull it down for low impedance and high sensitivity headphones and up for high impedance and low sensivity. I keep it up for my 120 ohm K601 and 150 ohm HD330.

It's set to low already.

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Ugh. This is disappointing. If I can't figure this out, I'm going to have to put the E10 back in which worked fine with all the cans I listed.

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Ugh. This is disappointing. If I can't figure this out, I'm going to have to put the E10 back in which worked fine with all the cans I listed.

How about the 3.5mm to 6.3mm adapter you're using. Maybe it doesn't make a proper contact with PX 100-II? Can you try another?
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How about the 3.5mm to 6.3mm adapter you're using. Maybe it doesn't make a proper contact with PX 100-II? Can you try another?

Thought of that too. Tried several. All the same results.

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How about the 3.5mm to 6.3mm adapter you're using. Maybe it doesn't make a proper contact with PX 100-II? Can you try another?

Thought of that too. Tried several. All the same results.

Then it's a mystery alright. Maybe PX 100-II just sounds bad with that combo. I personally have used or using AKG K601 and K420 , Superlux HD 330, SoundMAGIC E30, Philips SHP805 and Samson SR850 with that same combo without problems. Weird...
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Then it's a mystery alright. Maybe PX 100-II just sounds bad with that combo. I personally have used or using AKG K601 and K420 , Superlux HD 330, SoundMAGIC E30, Philips SHP805 and Samson SR850 with that same combo without problems. Weird...

I've tried at least a dozen different cans on the E09K not using the E07K and plugged directly into an X-Fi Titanium HD audio card and have never heard this problem. This is the first time I've actually used the E09K/E07K combo though.

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