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post #31 of 64

addition: I prefer K240 than AD700 because for piano and drums performance. I have very limited experience with AD700 but if you equalize AKG it is more all around classical headphone than AD700

post #32 of 64

Lumos: according to the graph the k240 is boosted at 2k, not recessed. You should probably do a sine wave sweep to get a more accurate picture.. Those graphs need to be taken with a grain of salt. The k240 does seem to have relaxed treble compared to some other phones, but it's the big boost in the mid and upper bass that's my only real issue with them.....makes them sound a overly muddy/murky(?) when a song also has a lot of energy in the upper bass. Maria Callas sounds pretty nice here :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A60tQ--67MY

and here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5cF5GGqVWo with my k240S, to my ears of course. Yours may hear different

post #33 of 64
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addition: I prefer K240 than AD700 because for piano and drums performance. I have very limited experience with AD700 but if you equalize AKG it is more all around classical headphone than AD700

If you like a brighter sound, with more detail retrieval and huge sound stage, you should try the 70X some time. They sound excellent with female opera singers....definitely brighter than the k240 or the senn hd580, for that matter. I prefer a warmer slightly darker sound, but I can see how others would prefer more highs in their music.

post #34 of 64
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So lumos I'm not very familiar with how to equalize these headphones, do you have any advice?
post #35 of 64
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No amplifier could do any magic particularly to improve vocal performance, amp just helps you to equalize better and receive sound you like. Fiio e6 can handle treble boost so it helps little bit, don't expect much :)

 

Opera songs (both for male and female) have very high pitch sound peaks and immediately very low pitch accompany, which is unlike to vocal jazz. K240 have rolled off treble, 2-5 kHz are recessed... so vocal in opera lack sharpness when singer takes very high pitch sound. this not gonna happen while listening Sinatra or Beatles. Example: listen this songs and compare to other headphones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O91rpv0ROwo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdfoESK6qhU&feature=PlayList&p=E18663DFF7E3F73C&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=20

 

If you take AD700 you will notice that sharpness because AD700 have above 0 db amplitude on 1- 2 kHz, (also it causes shrilling problem for some other music)

 

It is my, ,,taste'' I like sharpness on opera songs when needed and I think it is close to real performance. similar argument applies about why Violin do not sound ,,right'' on K240

 

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I listened to those singers you linked to...enjoyed the first one....even from the less than ideal youtube sound. You could try eq'ing down the upper and mid bass by a few db with the k240. That might work as well or better than boosting the highs.  

post #36 of 64
Thread Starter 
Uhh anyone have any idea how to equalize for someone who never equalized before?
post #37 of 64
What are u using to play your music?

Itunes has an equalizer, as does foobar or windows media player i believe. Not sure how you would equalize youtube or something like spotify.

Equalizers have sliders for a frequency range, you raise and lower them based on your needs/preferences. There are typically suggested starting points for types of music and specific players, a quick google for your player and the type of music and you should have a starting point.

I think you commented on my youtube vid for th k240s....was that you?
Edited by randerson07 - 12/10/12 at 10:22am
post #38 of 64
Thread Starter 
randerson07 I normally use my laptop to listen to songs from apple lossless and wave from CDs. I'm thinking about getting the FiiO E7 USB DAC, but I'm not sure yet. And that was probably me who commented on one of your youtube videos smily_headphones1.gif
post #39 of 64
Are you using itunes to play the cds and lossless files?

I forget where in the menu the graphic sequalizer is, but its there. Play with it, won't break anything and you can always go back to 'flat'.
post #40 of 64
Thread Starter 
Yeah I use iTunes I normally keep everything on flat.
post #41 of 64
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Originally Posted by slayerming2 View Post

So lumos I'm not very familiar with how to equalize these headphones, do you have any advice?

 

See attached image, it is my settings. No one can say how you should EQ your phone, every ear is different, especially on perceiving higher frequencies, try to get your configuration :)


Edited by Lumos - 12/22/12 at 12:32pm
post #42 of 64
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Originally Posted by lejaz View Post

Lumos: according to the graph the k240 is boosted at 2k, not recessed. You should probably do a sine wave sweep to get a more accurate picture.. Those graphs need to be taken with a grain of salt. The k240 does seem to have relaxed treble compared to some other phones, but it's the big boost in the mid and upper bass that's my only real issue with them.....makes them sound a overly muddy/murky(?) when a song also has a lot of energy in the upper bass. Maria Callas sounds pretty nice here :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A60tQ--67MY

and here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5cF5GGqVWo with my k240S, to my ears of course. Yours may hear different

 

Yes 2 kHz is around on 0 db, but after that we see 5 db drop gradually. I think we agree here that treble is relaxed/recessed. It is needed more forwardness ,,sharpness'' or whatever we call it :) for my ears of course.

post #43 of 64
Thread Starter 
Thanks Lumos, unfortuantley i use the beats audio that was installed into my computer. The Graphic Equalizer settings are 65Hz, 125 Hz, 250 Hz, 500Hz, 1kHz, 3kHz, 6kHz, 9kHz, 12kHz, With a range from -15 to +15. Also there is a range for bass, treble, center, space, and focus.
post #44 of 64
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Thanks Lumos, unfortuantley i use the beats audio that was installed into my computer. The Graphic Equalizer settings are 65Hz, 125 Hz, 250 Hz, 500Hz, 1kHz, 3kHz, 6kHz, 9kHz, 12kHz, With a range from -15 to +15. Also there is a range for bass, treble, center, space, and focus.

Try a 3db cut at 125, and another at 250...to your own taste, of course. Use your ears to tell you what, and how much, sounds best.. I sometimes like them better with some of the boomy low end frequencies cut. For a lot of material they sound fine without eq. I'm sure some would prefer some boost in the high frequencies, but for my taste, they sound fine without it, since most of what I listen to (most vocals and acoustic instruments) is focused in the midrange..  

post #45 of 64
Thread Starter 
Yep I think I'm going to buy the Fiio 7 soon unless anyone thinks that would be a bad investment?
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