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post #496 of 544
Quote:
Originally Posted by xdog View Post

I had(have) the same problem with the left/right channel imbalance (and I think one guy at the begging of this thread had the same issue)

It is not that big 0.5-1.5 db depending on the song.

But what is annoying is that it is frequency dependent, so you have large sound areas in you mind moving slightly (for example voice singing low/high)

 

PS: the mh489 are ok in that respect

 

I have heard that there were a large batch of MH463 which have this problem in China. There are people who are selling these on TaoBao (Chinese version of Amazon/Ebay). Maybe my friend just so happened to have bought from one of these dealers. 

post #497 of 544
Firstly, a big thank you to Joe for helping me get a pair of MH463s smily_headphones1.gif. I've had them now for over 4 months. These are my thoughts.

Out of the box I was impressed: They looks pretty nice, there's reassuring weight to the construction and comfort is serviceable. The body is mostly metal. As established though, long term comfort isn't great: the cups are just too shallow. Most will probably buy with this in mind though, as did I, with intentions of rectifying in the future. There are some issues with frame creaking when turning your head too - can be slightly annoying.

Concerning recent balancing discussion: I can only assume it's a bad batch. I assume mine must be from an earlier production run given the timeframe of buying them from Joe. I have no imbalance on mine. I'm pretty sensitive too. My first pair of M50s had it, and I sent them all the way back to the US for a replacement.

Sound is very good. Lots of space and instrument separation, with a fairly flat response. Nothing seemed recessed or highlighted; I like this. All elements of my music seemed to be given ample representation. The 50mm drivers provide enviable sound and presence. Bass is there, and provides a nice thrum for guitar or atmospheric background drone when called for. If anything, this is where there a bit of bias in the sound. Nothing overbearing though.

After burn-in/100hrs is when they really shine though! biggrin.gif

I would leave my set cycling through my songs nightly. This lasted about a week. Didn't really use them much during this period. When I first did though, wow, I was very impressed! There just seemed to be much more harmony in the music, more cohesion. Not muddy, but full-bodied. Nice and lush and weighty. Separation was further improved, and with a nice smoothness to the vocals. Sibilance is gone too. Coming through the E17 with LOD - I was blown away. The audio quality improved noticeably, and it responded wonderfully with the bass and treble settings.

I had put them on par with my HM5 rebrands originally (which I rate highly), but now, MH463 is king! Done some comparisons and the music just sounds more alive with the Somics. More impact, more space. Instruments and voice are more present. HM5 are no slouch, but these just outclass them.

GET THEM! ...and give them a chance too wink.gif. Out of the box they may not sound like anything special, but given the right treatment, they can sound wonderfully grand. Which brings me to my next passage - how I fixed comfort issues:

As mentioned, the cups are too shallow (they're actually nice and plush however). You can replace with other pads, like from the M50 or the Turtle Beaches for example, or plump the existing pads yourself. I was hesitant on deciding because personal preference varys wildly on the best pad replacement. A lot seem to feel it negatively colours the sound too. I decided to stuff the pads instead.

I originally tried cotton wool, foam and tissue. All worked to differing degrees, but had shortcomings. I had got along on tissue, but they compress and move too easily. It always seemed like a stopgap option. Recently, while wearing the Somics mind you, I was absentmindedly squishing together some silicone earplugs I'd picked up for 50c on clearance. I found they moulded together almost like play dough - awesome! I was having fun messing around when it occurred to me I could use them on the headphones. I took the whole packet and made two strips of equal length and width. They look like snakes. I then sort of moulded them to the underside of the cushion on the cups. It worked surprisingly well. Because they're malleable, but also keep their shape, theyre perfect to act as support. Additionally, the silicone will affix it in place and won't shift. The creaking is better too. When done it raised the cushion padding upward without squashing. The ear pads are now still soft, but raised from the driver housing.

Pretty pleased with the solution! Very comfortable now. I'd advise you to try it out, at the least. I couldn't notice any sound changes. It's probably a placebo, but it seems to improve the isolation. Again, probably a placebo biggrin.gif

Here's some pics. I used Macks waterproof earplugs. You can feel when applying under the cushion the opening for the drivers. There's a circle that enclosing the entire section it. Just make sure you push the silicone back from this. Should be just behind. Check it out:

LL

LL

LL

Kinda compliments the colour too cool.gif
post #498 of 544

Do you like them more than your M50s?

post #499 of 544
Definitely. Other than the Senns, the M50s get little love. Considering selling off. I just don't use them.
post #500 of 544

Will these work without amping, direcly fom the mobile phone and PC? My broken 40 ohm panasonic worked well, I don't think 45 ohm will bi a problem. I found them for 48€ included 24h shipping and 2 year warranty. It it a good price?

post #501 of 544
Volume won't be a problem. The sound does benefit from an amp, though. The sound ok from my phone but really bad from my PC without an amp, but I blame my onboard sound card for that! Bought my Lasmex rebrands (You might want to look them up if you live in the EU) for 50€ and I'd have 0 problems paying even more, if I'd buy them again. If you get them for 48€, save yourself from the hassle involved in buying from China and go for it!
post #502 of 544

Have a thing at the moment for budget headphones that punch above their weight, but cannot find these for a reasonable price in the uk:(

post #503 of 544
post #504 of 544

Ah thanks for that, seems alot seeing how cheap other people in the states are getting them for, thats equivalent to $80

post #505 of 544

Need to keep up with this thread! These are the few Sub $50 50mm OPEN back cans on the market :O 

post #506 of 544
Together with my DIY amp and my (future) hifimediy DAC, they make for a great ~110€ budget-setup... smily_headphones1.gif
What a introduction to open headphones for me!
post #507 of 544
Quote:
Originally Posted by UnknownAX View Post

Volume won't be a problem. The sound does benefit from an amp, though. The sound ok from my phone but really bad from my PC without an amp, but I blame my onboard sound card for that! Bought my Lasmex rebrands (You might want to look them up if you live in the EU) for 50€ and I'd have 0 problems paying even more, if I'd buy them again. If you get them for 48€, save yourself from the hassle involved in buying from China and go for it!

 

I may buy an Asus Xonar DG to see the difference in sound in the future. Thanks!

post #508 of 544

get this baby back in the spotlight yo!

 

listening to these out of a O2+Odac = amazing!!!

 

thumping bass and just an all around spectacular fun sound with no weaknesses.

post #509 of 544
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Naschy View Post

Firstly, a big thank you to Joe for helping me get a pair of MH463s smily_headphones1.gif. I've had them now for over 4 months. These are my thoughts.

Out of the box I was impressed: They looks pretty nice, there's reassuring weight to the construction and comfort is serviceable. The body is mostly metal. As established though, long term comfort isn't great: the cups are just too shallow. Most will probably buy with this in mind though, as did I, with intentions of rectifying in the future. There are some issues with frame creaking when turning your head too - can be slightly annoying.

Concerning recent balancing discussion: I can only assume it's a bad batch. I assume mine must be from an earlier production run given the timeframe of buying them from Joe. I have no imbalance on mine. I'm pretty sensitive too. My first pair of M50s had it, and I sent them all the way back to the US for a replacement.

Sound is very good. Lots of space and instrument separation, with a fairly flat response. Nothing seemed recessed or highlighted; I like this. All elements of my music seemed to be given ample representation. The 50mm drivers provide enviable sound and presence. Bass is there, and provides a nice thrum for guitar or atmospheric background drone when called for. If anything, this is where there a bit of bias in the sound. Nothing overbearing though.

After burn-in/100hrs is when they really shine though! biggrin.gif

I would leave my set cycling through my songs nightly. This lasted about a week. Didn't really use them much during this period. When I first did though, wow, I was very impressed! There just seemed to be much more harmony in the music, more cohesion. Not muddy, but full-bodied. Nice and lush and weighty. Separation was further improved, and with a nice smoothness to the vocals. Sibilance is gone too. Coming through the E17 with LOD - I was blown away. The audio quality improved noticeably, and it responded wonderfully with the bass and treble settings.

I had put them on par with my HM5 rebrands originally (which I rate highly), but now, MH463 is king! Done some comparisons and the music just sounds more alive with the Somics. More impact, more space. Instruments and voice are more present. HM5 are no slouch, but these just outclass them.

GET THEM! ...and give them a chance too wink.gif. Out of the box they may not sound like anything special, but given the right treatment, they can sound wonderfully grand. Which brings me to my next passage - how I fixed comfort issues:

As mentioned, the cups are too shallow (they're actually nice and plush however). You can replace with other pads, like from the M50 or the Turtle Beaches for example, or plump the existing pads yourself. I was hesitant on deciding because personal preference varys wildly on the best pad replacement. A lot seem to feel it negatively colours the sound too. I decided to stuff the pads instead.

I originally tried cotton wool, foam and tissue. All worked to differing degrees, but had shortcomings. I had got along on tissue, but they compress and move too easily. It always seemed like a stopgap option. Recently, while wearing the Somics mind you, I was absentmindedly squishing together some silicone earplugs I'd picked up for 50c on clearance. I found they moulded together almost like play dough - awesome! I was having fun messing around when it occurred to me I could use them on the headphones. I took the whole packet and made two strips of equal length and width. They look like snakes. I then sort of moulded them to the underside of the cushion on the cups. It worked surprisingly well. Because they're malleable, but also keep their shape, theyre perfect to act as support. Additionally, the silicone will affix it in place and won't shift. The creaking is better too. When done it raised the cushion padding upward without squashing. The ear pads are now still soft, but raised from the driver housing.

Pretty pleased with the solution! Very comfortable now. I'd advise you to try it out, at the least. I couldn't notice any sound changes. It's probably a placebo, but it seems to improve the isolation. Again, probably a placebo biggrin.gif

Here's some pics. I used Macks waterproof earplugs. You can feel when applying under the cushion the opening for the drivers. There's a circle that enclosing the entire section it. Just make sure you push the silicone back from this. Should be just behind. Check it out:

LL

LL

LL

Kinda compliments the colour too cool.gif

 

My, how time flies!  It's been four months since you got your Somics?  And that was a month ago?

 

Glad you like them and have found a solution to the comfort issue!

post #510 of 544
I bought these 20 days ago and sound great after a bit of burn-in. But the comfort isn't that great. I couldn't find a way to take out the ear cups that wasn't just pulling, and I am afraid I wont be able to put them in place again. Is there another way of changing them?

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