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post #2071 of 2927
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

Well, not as much about synergy (I only had the opportunity to try it with the Noble 4 and philips tx2) as much as being too big for my childish hands, a bit too aggressive in the highs and not as musical. And I won't comment on the kinda mixed bag of controls. Anyway, C3 is still kicking ass and honestly while I'm a fiio fan my interest has completely shifted to the dx90. 

X5 still needed to lean slightly cooler in tonality for me to spend money. There was still a hint of FiiO house sound present though I had a good demo period, at one stage was going to purchase X5 just for my ER4S. In the end felt I needed to lift the volume rather high to find detail retrieval in the upper mids I'm used too. While I think C3 may not beat X5 in refinement (a notable area for me with X5) and resolution the little Colorfly sounds very clean and airy.

Everytime I send my C3 out on loan I rediscover it again. For example, I rushed to the post office to rescue it before 5pm this afternoon just so I could listen with the Dunu DN -2000 tonight.
post #2072 of 2927
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post


X5 still needed to lean slightly cooler in tonality for me to spend money. There was still a hint of FiiO house sound present though I had a good demo period, at one stage was going to purchase X5 just for my ER4S. In the end felt I needed to lift the volume rather high to find detail retrieval in the upper mids I'm used too. While I think C3 may not beat X5 in refinement (a notable area for me with X5) and resolution the little Colorfly sounds very clean and airy.

Everytime I send my C3 out on loan I rediscover it again. For example, I rushed to the post office to rescue it before 5pm this afternoon just so I could listen with the Dunu DN -2000 tonight.

I wouldn't even call it fiio house sound. Just sounding a bit to aggressive and tight making it a bit too forward and intimate. Otherwise, control and detail IMO was great but I don't know - it's like they tried too hard to make it technically good that in the end it lacked musicality and openness to the sound and sounded a bit too uptight. Still a great player for the price but I guess i"m looking for something more musical. And to be honest, despite all the complains about the X3 controls I preferred them and found x5's wheel kinda picky. 

And despite the C3 slighltly lacking in tightness and control in the lower end it still beats anything paired with the C&C BH lol. 


Edited by kova4a - 6/3/14 at 9:09am
post #2073 of 2927
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

 

And despite the C3 slighltly lacking in tightness and control in the lower end it still beats anything paired with the C&C BH lol. 

 

Yeah baby! I'll just continue enjoying my C3/BH combo while you guys hash through all of the new DAPs and find one that sounds better than the C3/BH combo (but doesn't break the bank account). Then, I'm in!

post #2074 of 2927
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

 

Yeah baby! I'll just continue enjoying my C3/BH combo while you guys hash through all of the new DAPs and find one that sounds better than the C3/BH combo (but doesn't break the bank account). Then, I'm in!

 

The C3/C5 combo is also worth mentioning :wink_face:

Still can't let go of them despite the very tempting DX90...

post #2075 of 2927
Dat soundstage. C3/BH

You know a friend of mine here who I very much trust bought an X5 after his world tour demo and is convinced his new X5 doesn't sound the same.

As for C3 I just so wish they corrected the backwards scrolling folder titles, everything else I can live with, (I know this will never happen though) I've said it so many times. As what I've found using Sony NWZ-F806 and DX50 is... much of our listening experience depends on a usability stand point, and an easy UI becomes 'apart' of the entire audio experience, even to a point one would compromise extra sound quality for ease of use (especially on the go).

Probably a little dream I'd like to hold is the sound of Colorfly C3 inside a Sansa Zip case with Rockbox firmware as UI, and just to be a dash bold Studio V's 80 hour run times. Someone make that I'll even buy one for Kova. wink.gif
Edited by H20Fidelity - 6/3/14 at 9:41am
post #2076 of 2927
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

 

Yeah baby! I'll just continue enjoying my C3/BH combo while you guys hash through all of the new DAPs and find one that sounds better than the C3/BH combo (but doesn't break the bank account). Then, I'm in!

Despite probably having more hours with the BH than most of its users here combined (as the hifimediy dac + bh + jvc s500 is my work rih with 4K+ hours on ) I still think the BH is a very weird amp. Probably the only amp on which the high gain brings more control and impact to the low end than the bass switch. And the LF switch being mainly useful for those times when an iem is lacking a bit in the higher end extension, so you can flick it to bring back some air and shimmer to the sound. It's like they forgot completely about control and tightness and just wanted to make an airy and musical amp but kinda made it the only amp that whatever source you pair it with makes the bass softer than with the source alone.

Anyway, I still like its musicality and airiness but aside from the s500 I wouldn't really use it, especially for critical listening and reviweing other audio gear.

post #2077 of 2927
There's a new kid in town Kova, are you ready to do it all again? This one runs for 120 hours! Lolz..

http://www.head-fi.org/t/696825/40-topping-nx1-portable-headphone-amplifier

Mines on the way. wink.gif
post #2078 of 2927
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

There's a new kid in town Kova, are you ready to do it all again? This one runs for 120 hours! Lolz..

http://www.head-fi.org/t/696825/40-topping-nx1-portable-headphone-amplifier

Mines on the way. wink.gif

lol I'll wait a bit. I'll probably go for a dx90 without an amp to keep it as portable as possible

post #2079 of 2927

picked up my C3 after a long time and hooked it up to my newest purchase the ifi nano ican,great match and the sound is terrific very airy and musical and widens the soundstage quite a bit.

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Does the C3 support .m3u / .pls playlists?

My main IEM is the VSonic VSD1S -- will i notice better SQ with the C3 over an Android smartphone?

post #2081 of 2927
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Originally Posted by Amitl View Post
 

Does the C3 support .m3u / .pls playlists?

My main IEM is the VSonic VSD1S -- will i notice better SQ with the C3 over an Android smartphone?



Good question, maybe ClieOS or Kova knows.

It will definitely sound different to a smartphone, quite clean, well separated instruments, wide soundstage. Has a certain timbre and tonality you won't find in a smartphone.

Just remember it's power is quite limited so you won't be driving any high impedance headphones. Anything over about 80ohms depending on sensitivity might be pushing it.

It's really focused with low impedance IEM in mind but does many headphones like SHR440, MDR-V6 quite proud.
 

post #2082 of 2927
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Originally Posted by Amitl View Post
 

Does the C3 support .m3u / .pls playlists?

My main IEM is the VSonic VSD1S -- will i notice better SQ with the C3 over an Android smartphone?

C3's playback is folder-based, so there's no playlist support. C3 has enough power for vsd1s unless you like damaging your hearing. It can't match the options a smartphone has - all the playlist and file support, downsampling and upsampling, EQ, stream services, the big screen and ease of use etc. What the C3 has going on for itself is superior sound quality, far far superior battery life, 24-bit output and low output impedance. It's a great sounding little player but for someone whose first question is whether there is a playlist support, I'll have to assume you might be better off sticking with you phone. Also more current Android phones support otg and you could use and external DAC and amp combo. Of course, this is many times more expensive than a c3.


Edited by kova4a - 6/8/14 at 6:08am
post #2083 of 2927

thanks for commenting Kova4a!

i must explain my playlist issue.

it is not that i'm so fond of playlists, it's just that with my Galaxy smartphone, no matter which app i use,

i have problems unless using premade playlists.

the problem is that if i select an album to play by folder, the tracks are showing up

according to their tag (winamp tag or something) and not the file name itself.

this is a problem because the order of the tracks always gets messed up this way

and it plays the album by a wrong order.

so i have playlists for all my albums and they play fine.

BUT.....if the Colorfly C3 shows the filename itself and not the tag, there should

be no problem, because all my track-file-names are beginning with 01, 02, etc.

SO....if i may extend my question to all players your'e familiar with (Fiio X3, iBasso, etc.)

do they show the tracks by their tags or just plain and simple file names?

and also, just how much of an upgarde in SQ do you consider these players over

any android smartphone when using budget IEM?

thank you!!


Edited by Amitl - 6/8/14 at 3:36pm
post #2084 of 2927
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Originally Posted by Amitl View Post
 

thanks for commenting Kova4a!

i must explain my playlist issue.

it is not that i'm so fond of playlists, it's just that with my Galaxy smartphone, no matter which app i use,

i have problems unless using premade playlists.

the problem is that if i select an album to play by folder, the tracks are showing up

according to their tag (winamp tag or something) and not the file name itself.

this is a problem because the order of the tracks always gets messed up this way

and it plays the album by a wrong order.

so i have playlists for all my albums and they play fine.

BUT.....if the Colorfly C3 shows the filename itself and not the tag, there should

be no problem, because all my track-file-names are beginning with 01, 02, etc.

SO....if i may extend my question to all players your'e familiar with (Fiio X3, iBasso, etc.)

do they show the tracks by their tags or just plain and simple file names?

and also, just how much of an upgarde in SQ do you consider these players over

any android smartphone when using budget IEM?

thank you!!

 

Yeah, C3 shows files by their name and not their tag, so you can only play the music that's in the currently opened folder. But that's only half of the story. The C3 first takes into account the date the file was added or edited, so for instance when you add new folders or files you might have to use drivesort or numeric sort to get the c3 to show them in proper alphabetical or numerical order -they are free programs and it takes very little time to do this but that's a thing one should consider before getting a c3 together with all  the other C3's issues like the limited file support, lack of search function, no eq aside from selected presets, and a whole bunch of other options a smartphone has.

 

And yeah, more advanced DAPs usually have the options to either go by folder view or by scanning all the tags, so you can choose artists, albums, genres, etc. Although with the fiio x3 you might have to wait for the completely overhauled software to come out to get a proper user experience besides the folder view. As far as sq, it depends on the DAP you have but pretty much all of the "audiophile" DAPs are superior to any smartphone and even though SGS1 (which has wolfson inside and when vodood and with Neutron music player) is still probably the best sounding smartphone I've heard to date, it isn't a match for the cheap c3. The thing is that phones are getting thinner and thinner and with more powerful hardware but the audio chips used are usually mediocre low-power stuff, so that battery is conserved, there's also all the noise from other internals and so they are no match for dedicated players which have better DACs, dedicated amp sections etc. Of course, software-wise it's hard for these DAPs to beat current smartphones but Android phones have other limitations like higher output impedance, low output bit depth and sample rate etc.

 

Now, for budget iems and just enjoying your music on the go without getting too critical I think a smartphone is fine, of course, depending on which phone you have coz some of them are pretty bad and you'll be better off just buying a sansa clip. 


Edited by kova4a - 6/8/14 at 4:43pm
post #2085 of 2927
So I let the X3 take a break and dug out the tried and true C3/E11 combo, matched it with the JVC HA-S500's and it was a great end of day shopping session!

Juno Reactor's "Gods & Monsters" was divine!



So how ya'all been?
Edited by TrollDragon - 6/8/14 at 5:11pm
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