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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


To be honest..a guy on the headfi meet last sunday..said literarely on his meet review that he got so emotional while listening through my 337 and my he500(see my pics) he almost cried while listening to queen! And he is not a rookie in headfi land.. Many people got their hd650, he6, lcd2's and he500's and even grados to listen to my 337..as they found other even much more more expensive amps ( of the likes of musical fidelity, audio gd and more) didnt sounded well with those..but ALL said a weird thing..my 337 didnt sound like an OTL amp at all!.it was more like a mighty solid state amp with big soundstage, natural sound and velvetly voices and good articulated bass..
But there were 2 tube lovers..having woo audio amps (wa6 and wa2) and they said they didnt like the sound..AS IT DIDNT sound like a tube amp...lolz..soooo..i was happy..for now ...have a pair of bendix 6080wb and a pair of tung sol 5998 powertubes on their way to test..am curious how they will improve my 337 even better.. Oh yeah..the 337 is considered to pair very well with the he500 and so is the lafigaro 339...
I advice u to try one..and i think u will be surprised! VERY surprised! But u need to put right tubes in it! I now have tungsol sj7gt as drivers and svetlana 6as7g as powertubes..a good start i understand tongue.gif
Ps..somehow lcd 3 dindt like my amp..the expensive bugger biggrin.gif but that one sounded wonderrful on a violectric v200! In my eyes a big steal also as its one of the best sounding ss amps i listened to...

Good stuff. Yeah I have been lead to believe that plannars and OTL tube amps don't go well together,  but the HE500's seem to be the exception! The only tube amp I had left when I got my HE500's was the hybrid MF V3 and it sounded ok... But it only ever sounded "ok" with all my previous phones apart from the 650's, where as it sounded brilliant.

Think when I've got a bit cash might give a DV or Figaro a go thanks :)

post #32 of 127
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

Good stuff. Yeah I have been lead to believe that plannars and OTL tube amps don't go well together,  but the HE500's seem to be the exception! The only tube amp I had left when I got my HE500's was the hybrid MF V3 and it sounded ok... But it only ever sounded "ok" with all my previous phones apart from the 650's, where as it sounded brilliant.
Think when I've got a bit cash might give a DV or Figaro a go thanks smily_headphones1.gif
Dont forget..the amp shines only with the right tubes...power it has in spades biggrin.gif keep me updated! tongue.gif
Ps..the lafigaro amp is specifically good in low phones..as its a updated version of the 337..
Edited by hifimanrookie - 11/22/12 at 1:39pm
post #33 of 127
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Originally Posted by musiclife View Post


When you talk about electronic music, are you talking about an emphasis on bass and clear mids??confused.gif I don't listen to pop but mostly trance/house. So basically I'm looking for a very deep bas but the rest of mid and trebles should be flat, else it would become uncomfortable due to the high pitch computer generated sounds. A little confused here ...
The only phone who does this is the master of deep and controlled bass..the master of rumble ..the powerhungry lcd3.. As far i know..no other comes close to the bass impact and overall soundquality this monster gives u..
post #34 of 127
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


The only phone who does this is the master of deep and controlled bass..the master of rumble ..the powerhungry lcd3.. As far i know..no other comes close to the bass impact and overall soundquality this monster gives u..

 

 

I would disagree just a little bit.  And you think the LCD3 is power hungrywink_face.gif

 

The HE-6 does rival the LCD3 in bass impact and IMO it's better at bass control.  However, the HE-6 can't hold a stick to the LCD3 in bass extension - the LCD just goes deeper.  Oh the HE-6 has less rumble than the LCD as well. (that's a good thing for me).

 

You have to put some serious juice behind the HE-6 to get this response.


Edited by preproman - 11/23/12 at 6:41am
post #35 of 127

Hmm surely by now we are nearing the realms of "Off Topic". The O.P. has suggested a limit of $700 which we should respect. Unless of course the LCD-2 and the HE-6 have come down in price since last I looked. I'm sure others can comment on the costings here. And this is not considering the fact that O.P. may or may not have (or want) a powerful enough amp to power either of these (from what I have read about getting the most out of these two) which would suggest an even greater investment to accommodate OP' growing interests...yes I am starting to experience this myself and my wallet is hurting (but I digress)! 

 

Is that a strict budget OP? 

 

EDIT: It seems I have missed a few posts. But is the OP now considering purchasing AMP/DAC as well as Headphones with that budget?


Edited by nk77 - 11/23/12 at 7:12am
post #36 of 127
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Who can tell me who hear, diferences between la-figaro 339 and Darkvoice 337 ? For me both looking amazing, but what about sound ? 

post #37 of 127
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Hmm surely by now we are nearing the realms of "Off Topic". The O.P. has suggested a limit of $700 which we should respect. Unless of course the LCD-2 and the HE-6 have come down in price since last I looked. I'm sure others can comment on the costings here. And this is not considering the fact that O.P. may or may not have (or want) a powerful enough amp to power either of these (from what I have read about getting the most out of these two) which would suggest an even greater investment to accommodate OP' growing interests...yes I am starting to experience this myself and my wallet is hurting (but I digress)! 

 

Is that a strict budget OP? 

 

EDIT: It seems I have missed a few posts. But is the OP now considering purchasing AMP/DAC as well as Headphones with that budget?


 

 

HE-400 and O2+ODAC

post #38 of 127
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Originally Posted by Duper View Post

Who can tell me who hear, diferences between la-figaro 339 and Darkvoice 337 ? For me both looking amazing, but what about sound ? 

in base its same amp..i never heard a 339.but a friend of mine does...he told me its same amp only inproved by lafigaro (the owner of lafigaro actually worked at darkvoice)..its said the 339 is better tuned for low ohm phones then the 337...but sound wont be much different..the 339 is a bit more powerfull...as i said..when u want to have a out of a box amp to drive ur he500/maybe the 339 is the better choice..BUT..the 337 is a amp that sounds less tubey then the 339..so its all about what u want...as i said...i didnt hear the 339 YET..anyway..both amps are perfect for the he500...and the hd650.

post #39 of 127

The Hifiman EF-5 has spectacular synergy with the HE-500. It sounds pretty good on my HE-400, but I'm eventually going to trade-in the HE-400 for the HE-500 as it was my original plan. I just got so curious about the HE-400 that I had to get it tongue.gif I heard the EF-5 and HE-500 sounds even better if you upgrade the opamp in the EF-5

post #40 of 127

I just sold my HD650 to help fund the HE-500 ... which just arrived today and through which I'm listening right now..... through an Audioquest Dragonfly and Asgard amp.  Definitely no comparison, but I wonder if in 3 weeks I'll be listening to these or will have gone back to my prized HD600 (semi tongue-in-cheek).

post #41 of 127
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Originally Posted by MalVeauX View Post

Build: The HE500 is metal. The HD650 is plastic.

Speed: The HE500 is faster, but this is expected as a planar magnetic.

 

The hd650 is made of metal in the areas where it matters (between ear cups and head band)

 

And as for the speed, if you look at measurements (impulse response), the hd 650 is technically faster. I think it might just sound slower because of its sound signature.

post #42 of 127
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Originally Posted by BobJS View Post

I just sold my HD650 to help fund the HE-500 ... which just arrived today and through which I'm listening right now..... through an Audioquest Dragonfly and Asgard amp.  Definitely no comparison, but I wonder if in 3 weeks I'll be listening to these or will have gone back to my prized HD600 (semi tongue-in-cheek).

 

Whats wrong with the HD600...

post #43 of 127
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Originally Posted by BobJS View Post

I just sold my HD650 to help fund the HE-500 ... which just arrived today and through which I'm listening right now..... through an Audioquest Dragonfly and Asgard amp.  Definitely no comparison, but I wonder if in 3 weeks I'll be listening to these or will have gone back to my prized HD600 (semi tongue-in-cheek).

The asgard is to weak to power the he500...to fully enjoy the he500 u have to up it to the lyr. In any case u need at least 1rms per channel..or else u for sure will like the 600 more as its easier to drive.. Imho
post #44 of 127
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


The asgard is to weak to power the he500...to fully enjoy the he500 u have to up it to the lyr. In any case u need at least 1rms per channel..or else u for sure will like the 600 more as its easier to drive.. Imho


The asgard is rated maximum out 20 volts peak to peak; max power consumption 35 watts.   The lyr is rated max out 40 volts peak to peak with a power consumption of 30 watts.  These are both orders of magnitude larger than smaller portable amplifiers and not very different between each other.  I suspect the lyr is favored for the "distorted" SQ characteristic of tubes.  I'm extremely satisfied with the sound out of the asgard, and if an upgrade were warranted, I don't think it sould make much sense to "just" upgrade to the lyr, but rather to a higher grade amp.   IMHO

post #45 of 127
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Originally Posted by BobJS View Post


The asgard is rated maximum out 20 volts peak to peak; max power consumption 35 watts.   The lyr is rated max out 40 volts peak to peak with a power consumption of 30 watts.  These are both orders of magnitude larger than smaller portable amplifiers and not very different between each other.  I suspect the lyr is favored for the "distorted" SQ characteristic of tubes.  I'm extremely satisfied with the sound out of the asgard, and if an upgrade were warranted, I don't think it sould make much sense to "just" upgrade to the lyr, but rather to a higher grade amp.   IMHO

Thats what i meant with my opinion..the lyr is in many eyes a step up to the asgard..soundwise..for me there are better pairing alternatives then the lyr for the he500..like my 337..but with right tubes in it biggrin.gif
Anyway..if u like the sound of the pair asgard-he500..stay with it..
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