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Headphones with soundstage of ad700 but also bass?

post #1 of 21
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Do such headphones exist? I'm a pc gamer but also listen to techno, jazz, classical. Looking for something that has the nice soundstage for games but also has great bass.

I just picked up the superlux 668b and so far really liking them. Haven't tested in gaming yet but music is a big step up from my gamecom 367.

Still I wonder about other headphones.
post #2 of 21
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Originally Posted by smodtactical View Post

Do such headphones exist? I'm a pc gamer but also listen to techno, jazz, classical. Looking for something that has the nice soundstage for games but also has great bass.
I just picked up the superlux 668b and so far really liking them. Haven't tested in gaming yet but music is a big step up from my gamecom 367.
Still I wonder about other headphones.

 

Heya,

 

Sure.

 

Beyer DT990 PRO

Beyer DT880 PRO

Ultrasone HFI 2400 | PRO 2500 | PRO 2900

Hifiman HE-300

Hifiman HE-400

 

Very best,

post #3 of 21
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Originally Posted by smodtactical View Post

Do such headphones exist? I'm a PC gamer but also listen to techno, jazz, classical. Looking for something that has the nice sound stage for games but also has great bass.
I just picked up the Superlux 668b and so far really liking them. Haven't tested in gaming yet but music is a big step up from my gamecom 367.
Still I wonder about other headphones.

What sound card (or DAC and Amp) do you plug the headphones into?

On eBay, they sometimes sell different ear pads that fit the HD668B for around $15

Maybe they will add some comfort, like these.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replacement-Cushion-Fit-SUPERLUX-HD668B-HD669-HD-668B-669-Pro-Studio-Headphones-/251176808947?pt=US_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item3a7b4df1f3

post #4 of 21
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

What sound card (or DAC and Amp) do you plug the headphones into?

On eBay, they sometimes sell different ear pads that fit the HD668B for around $15

Maybe they will add some comfort, like these.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replacement-Cushion-Fit-SUPERLUX-HD668B-HD669-HD-668B-669-Pro-Studio-Headphones-/251176808947?pt=US_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item3a7b4df1f3

 

Nice thanks. As of now though the pads don't bother me at all. But I know the velour ones are better since my gamecom has them and they are really nice.

 

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Originally Posted by MalVeauX View Post

 

Heya,

 

Sure.

 

Beyer DT990 PRO

Beyer DT880 PRO

Ultrasone HFI 2400 | PRO 2500 | PRO 2900

Hifiman HE-300

Hifiman HE-400

 

Very best,


These sounds like good choices. I was definitely looking at the Beyer DT990 pro they have for <$200. I think if these or any of these drop closer to $100 I will go for them. Thanks!

 

The ultrasone's you mention are out of my league probably... looking to spend <$200. But if I upgrade again then I'll consider them.

post #5 of 21
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Nice thanks. As of now though the pads don't bother me at all. But I know the velour ones are better since my gamecom has them and they are really nice.

The AKG K240/241/270/271 Velour ear pads fit the HD668B, usually they cost $46 shipped.

http://www.headphone.com/accessories/headphone-parts/akg-k271-s-cushions-pair.php?datafeed=avantlink&avad=28375_e368f5a5

 

Found some Velour ear pads for $28, ships from Asia.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Headphoneque-Replacement-Ear-Pad-For-AKG-K-272-HD-Headphones-/130774987821?pt=US_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item1e72cbf42d

post #6 of 21
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Hey guys I was thinking about something with strong bass but relatively clear mids and highs and good directionality/sound stage and <$200.

 

What I came up with was the DT 990 that Malveaux suggested vs the Ultrasone HFI-580.

 

Between those 2 what do you guys think?

post #7 of 21

open or closed back?

post #8 of 21
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Open but im willing to get 580 and its closed back since it has the S logic so possibly good separation. Also put in the hfi 2400 open back into the mix since its the same price as the 580.

 

Thanks!

post #9 of 21
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Open but im willing to get 580 and its closed back since it has the S logic so possibly good separation. Also put in the hfi 2400 open back into the mix since its the same price as the 580.

 

Thanks!


Not to be a drag, but IMO you should try the S-Logic first before buying. I've read that it doesn't work for some people or that some people don't like it. Or at least get them at a store with a good return policy just to be sure.

post #10 of 21
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Originally Posted by Christo4 View Post


Not to be a drag, but IMO you should try the S-Logic first before buying. I've read that it doesn't work for some people or that some people don't like it. Or at least get them at a store with a good return policy just to be sure.


Fair enough Christo4.

 

One other comparison:

 

DT990 vs ATH AD900. What do you guys think? It seems the AD900 somewhat less bass but better mids and highs?

post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by Christo4 View Post


Not to be a drag, but IMO you should try the S-Logic first before buying. I've read that it doesn't work for some people or that some people don't like it. Or at least get them at a store with a good return policy just to be sure.

+1, ive never recommended ultrasone for that reason... But i do want to try them... Still a product using experimental tech... Might b worth it if im lucky
post #12 of 21

If you don't mind a small hit in soundstage and the vocals being presented a step behind the bass and treble notes, the HiFiMan HE-400 will deliver admirably. It's earned its reputation on these forums, at least with the velour pads.

 

If you want an even bigger soundstage (yes, even the AD700 can be dethroned there) and still more bass to go with it, a Stax Lambda-series set will do, but I don't know if it'll have enough of an increase in bass for your liking, for a number of reasons. At the very least, I can say that my SR-Lambda's bass reproduction has a lot in common with the HE-400 overall (which is a very good thing), except that there's a bit less tactile impact at the same level of volume.

post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by NamelessPFG View Post

If you don't mind a small hit in soundstage and the vocals being presented a step behind the bass and treble notes, the HiFiMan HE-400 will deliver admirably. It's earned its reputation on these forums, at least with the velour pads.

 

If you want an even bigger soundstage (yes, even the AD700 can be dethroned there) and still more bass to go with it, a Stax Lambda-series set will do, but I don't know if it'll have enough of an increase in bass for your liking, for a number of reasons. At the very least, I can say that my SR-Lambda's bass reproduction has a lot in common with the HE-400 overall (which is a very good thing), except that there's a bit less tactile impact at the same level of volume.


Thanks for the advice. Those seem kind of out of price range. I'm trying to spend about $200 or less. I did pick up a pair of superlux 668B and I really like them, but I could use some more bass and maybe better build quality. These seem decent build wise but I want something that will last for years.

 

The ones I was thinking about are the Ultrasone 580's, Beyerdynamic DT770 or 990 (not sure if I want higher bass and closed or more soundstage, less bass and open). What do you think about those options over the superlux ?

post #14 of 21
I like the HFI-2400 suggestion - but they're usually around $180 when they go on sale. The Bose AE2 are a bit less money, have a decent sound-stage, decent bass, nothing offensive - I like them for gaming more than I like them for music.
post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by smodtactical View Post
Thanks for the advice. Those seem kind of out of price range. I'm trying to spend about $200 or less. I did pick up a pair of superlux 668B and I really like them, but I could use some more bass and maybe better build quality. These seem decent build wise but I want something that will last for years.

 

The ones I was thinking about are the Ultrasone 580's, Beyerdynamic DT770 or 990 (not sure if I want higher bass and closed or more soundstage, less bass and open). What do you think about those options over the superlux ?

 

Sorry about the pricing; I didn't see a budget in your original post. They're definitely well past the $200 mark, especially when including amplification for the Stax systems.

 

The problem with all those other headphones you mentioned, for me, is that I simply haven't heard them and thus don't feel qualified to speak on them. That's what really makes it difficult for me to make recommendations in the price bracket between the AD700 and the usual orthodynamic and electrostatic sets.

 

All I know are other people's opinions, like the usual statements on Ultrasones having recessed mids. (How recessed is another question...some said that the HE-400's mids were recessed, and technically speaking, they are, but at least with velour pads, it's not to the point of vocals sounding distant and part of the background music.)

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