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post #136 of 868

Yep... and it only took 7 days to get a reply. :P


Edited by itshot - 2/5/13 at 12:31am
post #137 of 868
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Yep... and it only took 7 days to get a reply. :)

I'm waiting for that completion update... been waiting for a week as well. hopefully today is the day.

post #138 of 868
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I'm waiting for that completion update... been waiting for a week as well. hopefully today is the day.

I hope it is... I'm pretty excited for you!

post #139 of 868
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I hope it is... I'm pretty excited for you!

Finally got a reply that it is THIS week (said that last week, but that's besides the point). Hopefully it really is. What colors did you order it in again?

post #140 of 868

I got the diesel color. With the defaut logo.

 

Like I mentioned earlier, my design was too complex. So I'm looking into vinyl decals. Hopefully that and a clearcoat over it will work out. :P

post #141 of 868
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To me they seem fairly neutral the extra bass kicks in with bass enhanced recordings eg. Bassment Jaxx, Bassnectar its very detailed but then the C5's are detailed across the frequencies, stuff like Hybrid Sound system which has the Prague Philharmonic Orchestra in the mix sounds fairly neutral in the bass department. David told me they were V shaped as well as I like both V shaped and Neutral I thought of my Triple.fi's but the mid's seem only slighty recessed, Ive been listening to shure 535's for the last year which some people say are slightly mid forward so judgement might be a bit clouded on that one. Soundstage with regards to instrument placing is beyond anything I own (hd650, triple.fi, shure 535), Stereo Imaging is crazy but if ever got to tiring (I havn't yet) then a little crossfeed would tame it down.

 

I was hoping Sopp might do a impression or comparison, these are my first customs, Sopp I believe has some 1964 ears V6's so a comparison would interesting. wink.gif

 

Thanks, very interesting.

post #142 of 868

i figure this could be of interest in here

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/649707/frogbeats-c3-customs-review

post #143 of 868

I finally received my C4 last week. Fit is great, I think (these are my first ciems). 

The sound is..hmm...different. At home I mostly listen to my Grado SR80 or HF-1. My headphones on the go are Sennheiser IE8.

 

I have spend so far only a few hours with the C4 but the sound is something that I have to get used to. I am so far not blown away by how they sound. I am trying to explain why. 

 

As I wrote, I am listening a lot to my Grado HF-1. I really like how they sound. They just have the right amount of lows and highs. Also vocals sound great and music generally sounds airy and crisp (but I have no idea, if they are supposed to be neutral).

 

However, the C4s are supposed to sound neutral. Well, they definitely sound different compared to the HF-1.

 

The first thing that is striking are the lows. Wow, they are there...a lot. Songs like “Limit to your love” from James Blake rattle my cranial bones. The mids sounds also great. I love listening to Katie Melua or Diana Krall on the C4s. The voices sound very natural and forward. 

 

But the problem is that everything sounds like under a veil. If I switch back to the HF1 the crispness of the music is so evident. Everything sounds just clear.

 

A lot of course depends on the equipment that is used. At the moment I am listening straight out of my MacBook Air or iPhone without a headphone amp.

 

My music files are mostly AIFF or 320kbit MP3.

 

Like I said, I have only spend around 10h with them. Thus, these are only the first impressions, I wanted to share.

 

I will continue listening to the C4s and I am very curious if I will change my first impressions. Maybe I will adapt to the sound signature (because frankly, I have no idea how neutral headphones are supposed to soundbeyersmile.png).

 

post #144 of 868
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I finally received my C4 last week. Fit is great, I think (these are my first ciems). 

The sound is..hmm...different. At home I mostly listen to my Grado SR80 or HF-1. My headphones on the go are Sennheiser IE8.

 

I have spend so far only a few hours with the C4 but the sound is something that I have to get used to. I am so far not blown away by how they sound. I am trying to explain why. 

 

As I wrote, I am listening a lot to my Grado HF-1. I really like how they sound. They just have the right amount of lows and highs. Also vocals sound great and music generally sounds airy and crisp (but I have no idea, if they are supposed to be neutral).

 

However, the C4s are supposed to sound neutral. Well, they definitely sound different compared to the HF-1.

 

The first thing that is striking are the lows. Wow, they are there...a lot. Songs like “Limit to your love” from James Blake rattle my cranial bones. The mids sounds also great. I love listening to Katie Melua or Diana Krall on the C4s. The voices sound very natural and forward. 

 

But the problem is that everything sounds like under a veil. If I switch back to the HF1 the crispness of the music is so evident. Everything sounds just clear.

 

A lot of course depends on the equipment that is used. At the moment I am listening straight out of my MacBook Air or iPhone without a headphone amp.

 

My music files are mostly AIFF or 320kbit MP3.

 

Like I said, I have only spend around 10h with them. Thus, these are only the first impressions, I wanted to share.

 

I will continue listening to the C4s and I am very curious if I will change my first impressions. Maybe I will adapt to the sound signature (because frankly, I have no idea how neutral headphones are supposed to soundbeyersmile.png).

 

Interesting. Would you mind comparing the C4 to the IE8? An IEMs vs. headphones battle does not sound very convincing to me in the first place. 

post #145 of 868
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But the problem is that everything sounds like under a veil. If I switch back to the HF1 the crispness of the music is so evident. Everything sounds just clear.

 

Methinks your ears are acclimated to the HF1 sound sig. When you're used to a brighter headphones, it can skew what your hear in less bright IEM/cans. Same thing happened to me mate.

 

So essentially, just give it more time. Swapping to a less bright pair of headphones will help too. :P


Edited by itshot - 2/6/13 at 2:20pm
post #146 of 868
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Originally Posted by hardy74 View Post

I finally received my C4 last week. Fit is great, I think (these are my first ciems). 

The sound is..hmm...different. At home I mostly listen to my Grado SR80 or HF-1. My headphones on the go are Sennheiser IE8.

 

I have spend so far only a few hours with the C4 but the sound is something that I have to get used to. I am so far not blown away by how they sound. I am trying to explain why. 

 

As I wrote, I am listening a lot to my Grado HF-1. I really like how they sound. They just have the right amount of lows and highs. Also vocals sound great and music generally sounds airy and crisp (but I have no idea, if they are supposed to be neutral).

 

However, the C4s are supposed to sound neutral. Well, they definitely sound different compared to the HF-1.

 

The first thing that is striking are the lows. Wow, they are there...a lot. Songs like “Limit to your love” from James Blake rattle my cranial bones. The mids sounds also great. I love listening to Katie Melua or Diana Krall on the C4s. The voices sound very natural and forward. 

 

But the problem is that everything sounds like under a veil. If I switch back to the HF1 the crispness of the music is so evident. Everything sounds just clear.

 

A lot of course depends on the equipment that is used. At the moment I am listening straight out of my MacBook Air or iPhone without a headphone amp.

 

My music files are mostly AIFF or 320kbit MP3.

 

Like I said, I have only spend around 10h with them. Thus, these are only the first impressions, I wanted to share.

 

I will continue listening to the C4s and I am very curious if I will change my first impressions. Maybe I will adapt to the sound signature (because frankly, I have no idea how neutral headphones are supposed to soundbeyersmile.png).

 

 

PLEASE don't underestimate the importance of driving BA CIEMs with a LOW-impedance output. My UM Miracles sounded like crap when driven by my Cowon J3 - when I drove them with a D-777 discman or (even better) an iBasso DX100, the change in sound was an astonishing revelation, and I don't mean the difference in sound quality between the players, I mean the actual sound of the Miracles. The bass went from being muddy and lightweight to firm, defined, substantial, deep. The midrange became more focused. The treble went from being splashy and very poorly focused to being crisp, airy, delicate and detailed.

 

I am well aware that there are those who will say that the iPhone has a low impedance output but I urge you to listen to your C4s being driven by something else, like a DX100, before you pass judgment on them. I would say exactly the same thing about any BA CIEM, not just the C4. If you try this and still have the same impression of their sound, then fair enough, but I suspect you will find an enjoyable improvement.

post #147 of 868

Isn't there like a 1/8 rule or something? My monitors have 45 ohm impedance. So ideally my source's output should be 1/8 of that?

post #148 of 868
I don't think a veiled sound is a result of driving the ciem on MacBook Air or iPhone because it should be the other way around when impedance mismatch kicks in. Could be possibly fit issue or the acclimatization of the sound to HF-1,
post #149 of 868
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I don't think a veiled sound is a result of driving the ciem on MacBook Air or iPhone because it should be the other way around when impedance mismatch kicks in. Could be possibly fit issue or the acclimatization of the sound to HF-1,

 

Well, there's one way to find out...

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Well, there's one way to find out...

 

That is to order the C4 yourself evil_smiley.gif

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