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post #616 of 1488
Very good first impression Wayne. Thank you! And I'm very exited because I know how much you liked the SR225i and calling that the K167 have twice the performance means a lot to me. Now if my pair can arrive it will be like Xmas. wink.gif
post #617 of 1488

Has anyone compared these to the M50? If not, could my homie miow do one? :D I know that the amount of bass is the same, but is much tighter (thanks, miow). But I want to know if the 179 (K167 on eBay) minus 99 (M50 on soundprofessionals) = 80 dollars extra is worth it.

And I know by now that the double-the-price K267 is out. I lose bass adjustment, a larger driver, and a detachable cable, but I gain comfort, isolation, and aesthetics.

Also, thank you so much wje. Gosh, this is heaven.

post #618 of 1488

Just a thought, since some people mentioned that the looks of the silver polka dots on the headband might not be their forte, i think putting some bad@ss carbon fiber on them would look awesome. Here is a great youtube clip of some nice 3M brand ones.........

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9jHSqp6K5E&playnext=1&list=PLA28393FF9C64E1CA&feature=results_video

 

You can get small pieces of these for cheap on ebay, and it seems easy enough to do.

 

Damn AKG always be trolling with them non-detachable cables even on their more pricy cans, sigh. If not for this I would be all over these 167s. 

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Edited by sfwalcer - 12/8/12 at 10:39pm
post #619 of 1488
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Originally Posted by Dylan Yamazaki View Post

 

And I know by now that the double-the-price K267 is out. I lose bass adjustment, a larger driver, and a detachable cable, but I gain comfort, isolation, and aesthetics.

Also, thank you so much wje. Gosh, this is heaven.

Aesthetics look better on the 267, in my opinion - it looks much more 'complete', with the ring and the metal. The build is also better, whereas the K167 has a hinge issue according to one user. 

 

Also, I doubt the isolation is that much worse, and comfort for one person may be a completely different thing for another. I'm keeping my hopes up.

 

Either way, I am waiting on more input - I still have my K267 on pre-order, as I know it will be a more complete package.


Edited by BRSxIgnition - 12/8/12 at 10:47pm
post #620 of 1488

Me too, although I would like them to trade that synthetic glossy plastic for at least vinyl, matte, or carbon fiber. But I'd guess if they knew these would be such a big hit, they would have redesigned them. Good people, them folks at AKG are.

post #621 of 1488
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Originally Posted by Dylan Yamazaki View Post

Has anyone compared these to the M50? If not, could my homie miow do one? :D I know that the amount of bass is the same, but is much tighter (thanks, miow). But I want to know if the 179 (K167 on eBay) minus 99 (M50 on soundprofessionals) = 80 dollars extra is worth it.

And I know by now that the double-the-price K267 is out. I lose bass adjustment, a larger driver, and a detachable cable, but I gain comfort, isolation, and aesthetics.

Also, thank you so much wje. Gosh, this is heaven.

 

While I have not heard the M50s, I have owned plenty of Audio Technica headphones.  Audio Technica provides a very good offering with many headphones to suit almost anyone.  The bass that people have talked about on the M50 does appear good.  While others have indicated in some cases, it might have too much bass.  I know I'd love to hear a pair of M50s just ... because.  But, I think what we also need to realize is that the K167s are new.  This is a new design from AKG.  New drivers.  New ear cups, etc.  The design of the M50s is now a few years old.  I'd like to believe that with the time that has passed, more opportunity for better engineering has also moved into the picture.  Again, I'm just providing some comments on a view that I have, which may or may not be good.  Possibly, someone who has stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, or someone who has the M50s to compare to the K167s will provide input.  Finally, I really wouldn't look at it as an $80 difference.  Sure, with a budget and all, one does have to look at the fiscal side.  However, from a pure enjoyment side, the $200 on the K167s was money well spent in my case.  Granted, I still have my Fostex modified headphones and my HifiMAN HE-400s.  With those headphones, I wanted to ensure that I wasn't doing a parallel move in seeking the K167.  To me, I feel that the $200 went towards a great pair of headphones that can easily work with my other headphones and they will get plenty of use.

 

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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post

 

Damn AKG always be trolling with them non-detachable cables even on their more pricy cans, sigh. If not for this I would be all over these 167s. 

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Since I have to keep a reputation, I do have to live by my signature.  The fixed cable is not a deal breaker.  I can easily see myself down the road a bit locating some mini 3-pin XLR connectors and installing a female one into the left cup, to permit swapping cables around.  As an aside, though, I don't get myself too worked up over cables.  While I have gone ahead and created many cables, replaced other cables, etc. - I still don't believe in taking a $200 pair of headphones and buying a $250 cable to use for them.  If anything, I might find myself going towards some Mogami or Canare, that tends to be a quality cable for not so much cash, and then possibly making a few cables of different lengths, or possibly applying some colored jackets to some cables to provide a few custom options for the headphones.

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Me too, although I would like them to trade that synthetic glossy plastic for at least vinyl, matte, or carbon fiber. But I'd guess if they knew these would be such a big hit, they would have redesigned them. Good people, them folks at AKG are.

 

Actually, the plastic is not glossy at all.  I think the images you might have seen are possibly indicating some flash manipulation of the images.  In person, the finish is a matte finish and is pleasing looking. I don't think I could have lived with a glossy version of plastic.  That would just be wrong in so many ways.  Then again, if you end up seeing a version with glossy black plastic, it just might be a cheap knock-off version.  ** Darn, I hope I didn't give the counterfeiters any ideas here.  

post #622 of 1488

AKG K167 TI

Great read wje. Thanks
post #623 of 1488

Thanks, wje. You're bringing me into the audiophile world :)

So if I think DT880's bass level is just right and P5's is too much, will the K167 suit me?

post #624 of 1488
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Originally Posted by Dylan Yamazaki View Post

Thanks, wje. You're bringing me into the audiophile world :)

So if I think DT880's bass level is just right and P5's is too much, will the K167 suit me?

 

I think  you're getting stuck with "analysis paralysis."  wink.gif  Actually, while I do view people's opinions and views of a product here on the forum, I also have to realize that they are basically describing something how it appears to them.  My personal take on it might be completely different.  With that said, if 5 people said something was not so good, I might be turned away from something that I would find that would work well for me.  The price of getting educated on the forum is relatively cheap, but isn't exactly free.  I've found that relying too much on what another has said, did lead me to a product, but it happened to be something that I wasn't so fond of.  Thus, I had to pay shipping to get the item back so my funds were returned.  I can't tell you how much I've spent in the audio world, as it would probably be enough to feed a family for a few years.  And as far as the costs I'm talking about, it's not for the equipment that I have now, but it was for equipment that didn't work out and I had to return it, or sell it for a cost that was less than I had paid for it.  Do I feel cheated that I've used my money in such a manner?  Not really.  In the end, I've learned a lot through purchases, whether they worked out for me or not.

post #625 of 1488
so does anyone know the release date for the akg k267. I have the 167 but want the 267. Verry bad
post #626 of 1488
Thread Starter 

Great read wje ; )

 

Concerning the M50's, there's no comparison. M50 have recessed mids, soundstage is w i d er on the K167's and treble is better, very refined and natural (of course that this is also very DAP/AMP dependent).

 

My view of the K167 is very simple. It's an addictive phone, with exceptionally natural/realistic treble, very revealing (yet just a tiny bit on the dark side) and detailed, with tight, really TIGHT and deep bass (very detailed/textured) and with forwad/clean/liquid/just a bit warm mids. Separation is above average and PRaT (Pace, Rythm and Timing - aka fun) is exceptional. Great dynamics too. And this sums it up. I'm no reviewer, sorry.

 

EDIT: From everything I've heard so far, they are at the same level of the DENON D5000 (with forward mids and tighter bass).


Edited by miow - 12/9/12 at 5:11am
post #627 of 1488

AKG K167 TI

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Originally Posted by reedith8 View Post

so does anyone know the release date for the akg k267. I have the 167 but want the 267. Verry bad

I don't remember reading your thoughts on the 167? Satisfied? Or just want the extras of the 267?
post #628 of 1488
Wow. Incredible wje. These seem to be quite incredible indeed. Would you say they are comparable or better than Mad Dogs, or are the signatures completely different?
post #629 of 1488
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Originally Posted by miow View Post

Great read wje ; )

 

Concerning the M50's, there's no comparison. M50 have recessed mids, soundstage is w i d er on the K167's and treble is better, very refined and natural (of course that this is also very DAP/AMP dependent).

 

My view of the K167 is very simple. It's an addictive phone, with exceptionally natural/realistic treble, very revealing (yet just a tiny bit on the dark side) and detailed, with tight, really TIGHT and deep bass (very detailed/textured) and with forwad/clean/liquid/just a bit warm mids. Separation is above average and PRaT (Pace, Rythm and Timing - aka fun) is exceptional. Great dynamics too. And this sums it up. I'm no reviewer, sorry.

 

EDIT: From everything I've heard so far, they are at the same level of the DENON D5000 (with forward mids and tighter bass).

 

With your sound description regarding the detail, the great mid-range and the deep bass - with texture as well as detail, that is essentially the same conclusion I can come to and what my ears hear and experience.  Since the Denon D5000 is no longer manufactured, I had wondered if I had missed out on a great headphone opportunity.  But, when I see that the D5000 is still available for about $500, I realize that its time has come and gone.  I wish I had taken a chance to hear the Denon, but I feel that the recessed mids and somewhat lacking detail would have not been so popular with me.

post #630 of 1488
Thread Starter 

I'm taking a sub-bass "massage" from this:

 

 

They have it all. Sub-bass, great mids, exceptional treble... and so on.


Edited by miow - 12/9/12 at 6:50am
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