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post #1171 of 1488
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Originally Posted by miow View Post

 

EDIT: it is intimate and engaging to me. Alot. If you amp them, add bass boost and Clear Bass if you got a SONY DAP. I couldn't be more happier with this purchase after years of searching for the perfect sound. They're not perfect, but are close to that to these ears after some adjustements (EQ). You guys without a SONY A86x DAC will never feel it the way I feel because it's SONY's Clear Bass that does a big part of the job. Also the JDSLabs C421 since the E11/E17 highs are too unnatural and muddy.

 

1) Isn't Sony A86x a portable mp3 player? I'm listening music from my computer only.

 

2) It's irrelevant how it sounds with all those things added as you can also add those things ontop of 1R as well and 1R will be still similarly ahead in those aspects (intimate etc) as the K167 (same settings vs same settings). It can vary a bit depending on headphone how well they adapt to sound tweaks but never more so than the natural difference in the headphone to begin with.  

 

About the EQing, I have following problem. I need to use WASAPI due to my dolby headphone foobar2000 config, Realtek's EQ doesn't work with WASAPI (and well isn't any good to begin with, affects sound quality too much), only directsound. I want a system wide EQ option so the only other option software wise is using Virtual Audio Cable as output device + VSThost app + VST EQ but that's too much of a hazzle IMO. I've tried both an ASUS Xonar D2 and Titanium HD soundcard but really didn't like both that much. The remaining option is then to buy a hardware EQ which are kinda expensive, the "useful" ones starts there roughly at 125 EUR+ and "good" ones roughly 250+ EUR. I used to love kX Audio driver's 10-band EQ as it worked so beautifully but it's too bad that the Creative Audigy 2 ZS cards just aren't up to todays standards any longer and I'd say nowadays Realtek onboard chips sounds at least as good (of course as long as absolutely no DSP processings are applied).


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 12/19/12 at 10:47am
post #1172 of 1488
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Originally Posted by miow View Post

 

I was going to do so, but after what I've read I have no doubts that the K167s are better to me. Time to test some triple dynamic driver IEMs from JVC and compare to these ; )

 

EDIT: What Clear Bass does is give you twice as much power/impact in the mid bass than a simple EQ. It's not to give you a cleaner bass. It is "clean" enough already. This is what gives me the fun factor, what makes me FEEL the music the way I like it, as if it was coming from speakers with a sub-woofer. :-) And there's another thing that a SONY A86x DAP gives you. It does drums way better than a Clip+ or Cowon. Especially snare drums. This alone makes me choose this player over the other ones hands down.

 

What's the point in keeping the k167 if i dont like the signature, as is?

 

These headphones werent designed to have a thick, aggressive sound.

 

If i want a thicker sound i can just get the mdr1, when its back in stock.

 

If we're going to be so picky about sound, we just set ourselves up for more disappointments.

post #1173 of 1488
Thread Starter 

Yes, RPG, it is a portable mp3 player.

 

No, I don't think the MDR-1R will have all this detail. There's a comparison here already, check first page, post #2. And I still have the fun factor/intimacy with my combo ; )

 

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Originally Posted by droid23 View Post

time for a first hearing comparison between the K167 and the MDR-1R*:

*not yet burned-in

 

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1) 1R's sub bass is definitely not that present (might be a psychoacoustical effect due to #2). The overall bass is quite good but not that clear and deeply punchy as in the 167s though.

2) mids are very present, clear and especially with voices you get the feeling, that the music is IN your head (or very close in front). That of course results in an overall smaller soundstage but in a more "forward" listening experience. I like how they reproduce voices.

3) with the 1R I get the impression, that there's a tendency towards certain genres where they have their strengths e.g. every electronic genre, r&b, hip-hop. With classic music, jazz, singer-songwriter, and (crazy as it sounds) even with rock music they lack the clarity, timing and resolution directly compared....maybe it's the more accurate timbre what I like with the 167.

 

Frankly I do not miss the underrepresented lower mids of the 167...but I miss the analytical sounding upper mids and high frequencies in the 1R. Don't get me wrong, it's also fun to listen to the sony's. In general they sound much smoother (out of the box) due to the weighted soundengineering in the mids but I hope at least the higher FQ will improve with a certain burn-in process.

 

hmm...what should I say...so far the 167s got me addicted to their soundsignature. The 1R will for sure stay a bit longer in da house. I'll give them the chance they deserve.

 

as.we.proceed., if you don't like the signature, go ahead and put them on the for sale forum regular_smile%20.gif
 


Edited by miow - 12/19/12 at 10:46am
post #1174 of 1488
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Originally Posted by miow View Post

 

as.we.proceed., if you don't like the signature, go ahead and put them on the for sale forum regular_smile%20.gif
 

I said IF i didn't like it. I'm not returning these. I'm fine with them without clear bass+bass boost.

 

I'm interested to see how the MDR1R would compare to the k167 to the ears of someone that loves the k167.

 

The only people that picked the MDR1R over the k167 are the ones who didn't like the k167 to begin with.

post #1175 of 1488
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Oh, ok. Well, you have a comparison above. For me it says it all. But could just read another one, just in case. ATM I'm more interested in a comparison between M-100 and K167 :-)

post #1176 of 1488
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Originally Posted by miow View Post

Oh, ok. Well, you have a comparison above. For me it says it all. But could just read another one, just in case. ATM I'm more interested in a comparison between M-100 and K167 :-)


Jebus, would you ever let other people express their feeling about these phones in this and K267 thread?

It's like every other post is yours (actually I think it's more like 5 to 1 ratio), did it occur to you that it just gets annoying and does not add value to the thread at all. You post same information over and over, "they sound natural, you hear it wrong, oh you are hearing it right, hmm, well try EQ them then, that helps". confused.gif

 

You like the phones, we got it, now move one and let others speak out. No offense but unless someone is really interested in one sided view, you are doing more disservice to them than helping.

That's fanboism at it's worst, even worse than from early Ultrasone Pro days.


Edited by Andrew_WOT - 12/19/12 at 11:55am
post #1177 of 1488
Thread Starter 

nevermind.


Edited by miow - 12/19/12 at 12:26pm
post #1178 of 1488
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Originally Posted by miow View Post

 

Thats really strange. To my ears they have one of the most accurate timbre/realism I've heard and I have had DENON D5000, Westone 3, UM3X, SM3, etc, etc. As I said they just need a bit of EQ in the mids as they're a bit recessed, but EQ fix that issue completely.

The K167 does not even come close to the SQ of the D5k to my ears I must have got a bad pair or you got a bad pair of the Denons because it makes me laugh to even suggest these are in the same realm.  The K167 sound unnatural to me. But hey, we all hear different.

post #1179 of 1488

Well... I never really liked the D5K, it was too warm for my tastes. But from what I remember it would be a stretch to say the K167 sounds as good if not better.

 

Let's keep it in perspective, though. The D5K is a $500+ phone, and a very different sound from the K167, so I think it's silly to compare the two. On the other hand, the K167 imo is the most impressive sub-$200 can I've heard to date.

post #1180 of 1488
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Originally Posted by viralcow View Post

Well... I never really liked the D5K, it was too warm for my tastes. But from what I remember it would be a stretch to say the K167 sounds as good if not better.

 

Let's keep it in perspective, though. The D5K is a $500+ phone, and a very different sound from the K167, so I think it's silly to compare the two. On the other hand, the K167 imo is the most impressive sub-$200 can I've heard to date.

Like I said, we all hear different. I was not the one throwing out the comparison, but I bought these based on the comparison and I am a bit disappointed.


Edited by Fearless1 - 12/19/12 at 3:03pm
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Found out where the sound leak is coming from. It's not an entirely closed back design cause there are three holes by in the center of the caps circular to the tiesto logo. Cranked up some white noise and blocking those holes removes a lot of the sound leak. 

post #1182 of 1488
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Found out where the sound leak is coming from. It's not an entirely closed back design cause there are three holes by in the center of the caps circular to the tiesto logo. Cranked up some white noise and blocking those holes removes a lot of the sound leak

 

Doesn't that gives more bass?

post #1183 of 1488
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Originally Posted by zeromacro View Post

Found out where the sound leak is coming from. It's not an entirely closed back design cause there are three holes by in the center of the caps circular to the tiesto logo. Cranked up some white noise and blocking those holes removes a lot of the sound leak. 


There is no hole there.

 

1000

post #1184 of 1488
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post


Jebus, would you ever let other people express their feeling about these phones in this and K267 thread?

It's like every other post is yours (actually I think it's more like 5 to 1 ratio), did it occur to you that it just gets annoying and does not add value to the thread at all. You post same information over and over, "they sound natural, you hear it wrong, oh you are hearing it right, hmm, well try EQ them then, that helps". confused.gif

 

You like the phones, we got it, now move one and let others speak out. No offense but unless someone is really interested in one sided view, you are doing more disservice to them than helping.

That's fanboism at it's worst, even worse than from early Ultrasone Pro days.

 

I'm looking for headphones with deep bass with clear mids and highs. Would you suggest the MDR-1R or the K167? I've ruled out the Momentums.

 

I found it a bit rude to suggest the poster leave the thread and have a bowel movement. I voiced my feelings about the K167 here and thought I was fair. I really like it but it is not perfect, nor would I expect it to be. It is not for everybody but it does make listening a lot of fun, which is a large part of musical enjoyment.

post #1185 of 1488
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I found it a bit rude to suggest the poster leave the thread and have a bowel movement.

 

lol. wink.gif

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