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post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by Irishpwnstar View Post

From what I hear, the XB1000's are also excellent, but I still stand with the Q40+E11 combo

 

i own the xb1000's, they're not really that great for hip hop. they dont suck but there are way better phones there that are more suited to hip hop, especially golden era rap for a fraction of the cost

 

the xb1000's are imo the best headphones or one of the best at least for electronic music

post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by ssrock64 View Post

The M50, as somebody else mentioned, is definitely not the best choice. Yes, it's kind of the entry-level standard, but the second-generation (white-box) version doesn't have nearly the bass quantity of the old blue-box model and would disappoint the OP. The HFI-580 would be a better choice, but may be a bit flawed due to its overladen treble response. Computer hi-hats can be positively painful sometimes, and I don't find that the HFI-580 is great with layered songs. The Monoprice, though it's great in terms of value for your money, honestly can't measure up to the others that've been mentioned. The XB1000 is similar to the HFI-580 (albeit with more toned-down treble), but is far overpriced at nearly $300, not to mention that I believe it went out of production.

 

I agree with Irishpwnstar's recommendation of the M-Audio Q40 here. It's a great entry-level can with phenomenal bass response that's not only big on quantity, but has plenty of detail to boot. The general sound signature is similar to a Klipsch Reference One, but I hate to draw that comparison because the Q40 is so much clearer and so much greater than the other headphone. The Q40 also has an above-average treble presentation for its price range, without being over-zealous about it and going overboard on the percussion. It works great with hip-hop, rap, and electronica (genres I don't frequent, but when I do it's generally The Roots, Moby, Infected Mushroom, and my guilty pleasure of Eminem), and stands as one of the best cans in general under $150.

 

I have spent more than ten hours of listening time with every pair of headphones I just mentioned, and have owned all but the XB1000. I believe that you'd be incredibly happy with the Q40, though you can't truly go wrong with anything listed.

 

i feel i have to mention that alot of people in this thread seem to be failing to take into account what exactly makes a headphone worth suggesting for the type of hip hop the op is looking for

 

im not saying the q40's wouldnt meet his needs, i literally have no idea, i've never heard them, but going off your description, you're describing something that would actually be detrimental to that classic ny boom bap hip hop sound

 

all rap is not created equal, the q40's from your description sound like they would be right at home with todays modern more bass emphazied rap or maybe even west coast cali g funk, but what makes the golden era and to a lesser extent underground backpack rap so remarkable are the lyrics, artists actually had something to say back then and the beat was an accompaniment not so much the stage leader like so much "music" coming out of the south

 

you describe thunderous bass but make no mention of the most important part, the mids. you also mentioned really strong treble and highs but lol who the hell listens to rap for the highs? maybe with some jazz type records like gurus jazzmatazz series, mc solaar and tribe, but by and large what the op is looking for is mids with strong bass sitting right along next to it, the highs can more or less take a back seat. 

 

lol just my opinion, i apologize if it reads like im attacking you, im not

post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by Dutchi MerenGue View Post

 

i feel i have to mention that alot of people in this thread seem to be failing to take into account what exactly makes a headphone worth suggesting for the type of hip hop the op is looking for

 

im not saying the q40's wouldnt meet his needs, i literally have no idea, i've never heard them, but going off your description, you're describing something that would actually be detrimental to that classic ny boom bap hip hop sound

 

all rap is not created equal, the q40's from your description sound like they would be right at home with todays modern more bass emphazied rap or maybe even west coast cali g funk, but what makes the golden era and to a lesser extent underground backpack rap so remarkable are the lyrics, artists actually had something to say back then and the beat was an accompaniment not so much the stage leader like so much "music" coming out of the south

 

you describe thunderous bass but make no mention of the most important part, the mids. you also mentioned really strong treble and highs but lol who the hell listens to rap for the highs? maybe with some jazz type records like gurus jazzmatazz series, mc solaar and tribe, but by and large what the op is looking for is mids with strong bass sitting right along next to it, the highs can more or less take a back seat. 

 

lol just my opinion, i apologize if it reads like im attacking you, im not


No harm done, I understand your criticism. I was basing my comments on the OP's specification of good bass response (which could be taken either quantitatively or qualitatively), but if the OP wishes for a more neutral, mid-centric sound with a bit of bass kick I guess the M50 would do the job.

post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by Dutchi MerenGue View Post

 

i feel i have to mention that alot of people in this thread seem to be failing to take into account what exactly makes a headphone worth suggesting for the type of hip hop the op is looking for

 

im not saying the q40's wouldnt meet his needs, i literally have no idea, i've never heard them, but going off your description, you're describing something that would actually be detrimental to that classic ny boom bap hip hop sound

 

all rap is not created equal, the q40's from your description sound like they would be right at home with todays modern more bass emphazied rap or maybe even west coast cali g funk, but what makes the golden era and to a lesser extent underground backpack rap so remarkable are the lyrics, artists actually had something to say back then and the beat was an accompaniment not so much the stage leader like so much "music" coming out of the south

 

you describe thunderous bass but make no mention of the most important part, the mids. you also mentioned really strong treble and highs but lol who the hell listens to rap for the highs? maybe with some jazz type records like gurus jazzmatazz series, mc solaar and tribe, but by and large what the op is looking for is mids with strong bass sitting right along next to it, the highs can more or less take a back seat. 

 

lol just my opinion, i apologize if it reads like im attacking you, im not

the story of hip-hop when it comes to needed sound quality right there

 

people misinterpret hip-hop as having a sound signature that is bass heavy, not the case when lyrics comes first over anything, so a better assessment of what you need for hip-hop are mid-centric headphones(speech frequency range) where you hear the impact of an mc's flow rather than a thumping bass

post #20 of 20
Check out the Sony XB 700.
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