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post #16 of 32
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Originally Posted by carlchip78 View Post

Supporting a musician is not just about the money. It's about showing appreciation for their art. Most musicians i know started performing way before it was 'cool' or profitable. I think that people's creativity should be given every opportunity to thrive.

I'm not against buying CDs, but I'm just saying that if you want to help the artist, buying merchandise would help more than music. Art will only receive the appreciation it deserves, there's no obligation to give anything for it. In fact, all this "intellectual property" and etc. is complete garbage imo. 

 

When talking about piracy, it has helped the music industry more than anything. Artists would be a LOT worse off without iPods creating massive demand, and demand for iPods would skyrocket down if people actually had to pay the ridiculous price of $.99 per song to fill up all 8/16/32 Gb.

post #17 of 32
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Originally Posted by chuckle490 View Post

Thanks, I think I'm going to continue to purchase all the stuff I really care about on cd. But honestly, I hear so many people complaining about the quality of iTunes music, are you telling me that they are wrong and it's all a placebo effect? 


If collecting cd's and building a library is what you enjoy then pursue it. Trying out different gear and music for yourself is what makes this hobby so enjoyable, well at least for me it is.

post #18 of 32
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Originally Posted by carlchip78 View Post


If collecting cd's and building a library is what you enjoy then pursue it. Trying out different gear and music for yourself is what makes this hobby so enjoyable, well at least for me it is.

But it's just best to do it in the most economical way, especially if your goal is to get the best sound for your money, which is what head-fi is generally about. But if you derive more utility (somehow) from actually owning the music, by all means, go for it.

post #19 of 32
Rebuying music is an expensive operation. If however you want to listen to music on a hi-fi system its pretty much essential. Anyone whos used Nero to convert a 256kbps mp3 into a CD will tell you how poor the CD sounds compared with the original they used to create the mp3. Listening with headphones the difference is not so noticeable. As I found out with some tracks there is virtually no improvement while others do sound different. Going from 192 to 320kbps I found on several tracks high frequency elements become noticeable. Going from 320 to lossless you need good over the ear headphones and a headphone amp to notice any difference. The bass seems slightly nicer and little artifacts disappear but some tracks are indistinguishable. In the end it depends on what equipment you will use with your source. If your listening outside with earbuds then there isn't much point in getting CDs of material you already own. If however you want a convenient substitute for your hi-fi at home then CDs are the way to go.
Edited by Sefelt103 - 11/15/12 at 2:36am
post #20 of 32

right now, buying a used CD is cheaper than buying an MP3 download.

 

I really don't an argument here, it's a no-brainer.

post #21 of 32

a used CD will cost you $5.00..I have seen them as cheap as 2.99.

 

at least here in MN it does.

 

I was able to find the ORIGINAL none remastered version of Living Colour - Vivid issued Circa 1988. I have the remaster and I found the sound odd... well it turns out that the remaster had reverb added to Vernon Reid's guitar solo post processing which sounded like slop city.

 

Another one is Ozzy's original albums (Blizzard of Oz, Bark at the Moon, Diary of a Madman, No Rest for the Wicked, Ultimate Sin)

 

He also remastered them but took remastering to the next level!!

 

Like replacing the bass and drums with new re-recorded bass and drums! Compared to the original, sounds aweful. But found the CD's used in there unmolested orignal release. :)


Edited by figgie - 11/15/12 at 8:01am
post #22 of 32
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Originally Posted by figgie View Post

a used CD will cost you $5.00..I have seen them as cheap as 2.99.

 

at least here in MN it does.

 

I was able to find the ORIGINAL none remastered version of Living Colour - Vivid issued Circa 1988. I have the remaster and I found the sound odd... well it turns out that the remaster had reverb added to Vernon Reid's guitar solo post processing which sounded like slop city.

 

Another one is Ozzy's original albums (Blizzard of Oz, Bark at the Moon, Diary of a Madman, No Rest for the Wicked, Ultimate Sin)

 

He also remastered them but took remastering to the next level!!

 

Like replacing the bass and drums with new re-recorded bass and drums! Compared to the original, sounds aweful. But found the CD's used in there unmolested orignal release. :)

 

 

I do likes the original Ozzy releases too. The Megadeth CDs are also completely changed from the original first releases. Dave even changed the lyricseek.gifon some songs. So just imagine that you are looking for an improved sound from you first release CD, or just have the songs really memorized and then you get the new CDs? 

 

Many have sensed that something was different but didn't know until they did the research on the Ozzy and Megadeth remasters. I found all my original Megadeth CDs in a thrift store for $1.00 each. 

post #23 of 32
I do this, because my download usage is capped and speeds terrible. So I buy my CD's on ebay rip them to FLAC then sell them again for $1 less.

Works out really well.....
post #24 of 32

For me its a no brainer - CD and FLAC. I just cant understand why anyone would purposely pay money for a technically inferior product (mp3)... whether they can hear the difference or not should not matter.
The issue in my mind is that people are getting used to paying the same amount as they used to for Vinyl and CD with all the artwork and sleeve notes, as for technically inferior mp3 files. This has slowly had the effect of making music a throwaway product that is "On in the background" rather than actively listened to.

If this eventually becomes the norm, why will record companies bother to record music at studio quality, when people will accept any old cr@p. I think we have started to see this happening over the last decade with the Loudness wars.
 
I think anyone that really loves music should insist on the best from the artists and studios.

I only ever normally buy CDs as I tend to buy an Album rather than a couple of tracks. The CD ( which is normally the same price if not cheaper than mp3) gives me the option to listen to it natively or rip it to whatever format I want. I now only rip to FLAC so that I have a bit for bit copy for archive AND a perfect copy for playing on a system that would make a lossy format evident.
I used to down convert to 320K but now as disk space is so cheap and my player takes microSD cards and I have about 128GB worth currently, I dont bother converting down as its plenty of space to take my FLACs.

I do buy the occasional download and then again, only as FLAC for the same reasons.

On the issue of paying for music, no matter the excuses and semantics used to justify it, it is no more than theft. If you like and listen to an artist, you should support them by paying for their music. There is no excuse these days, as in the majority of cases, especially with smaller artists, you can buy their music directly from them.
I think people have gotten used to the ease of, and now expect to get something for nothing.


Edited by kryten123 - 11/16/12 at 2:25am
post #25 of 32

what he said

post #26 of 32
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

I do this, because my download usage is capped and speeds terrible. So I buy my CD's on ebay rip them to FLAC then sell them again for $1 less.
Works out really well.....

I thought this was illegal, as you actually make a profit if you sell more than one CD.

 

Legal issues aside, I feel as much guilt pirating music as I would driving a hummer and it's effects on global warming and submerging other countries under the sea.

post #27 of 32

I would never sell my CDs. Back in the day when CDRs first emerged I made some and they wore-out. They were $1.00 each in around 2000-2001 as I remember. I purchased a stack of 100 CDRs for $100.00 usd. I'm sure CDRs have improved but still.The second issue is hard-drive failure. There are many a story of folks loosing there music. The best is having an original on CD in case all your copies get digitally destroyed. Even if space becomes an issue you can put them in storage cases.

post #28 of 32
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Originally Posted by chuckle490 View Post

Thanks, I think I'm going to continue to purchase all the stuff I really care about on cd. But honestly, I hear so many people complaining about the quality of iTunes music, are you telling me that they are wrong and it's all a placebo effect? 

iTunes music is not bad, but if your listening to it from pair of $1000 cans with a $500 DAC you can probably tell the difference between 256k and lossless. I think the change in sound quality is going to be more dependent on the quality of the recording and the headphones/IEMs being used.

Check out some of your local libraries if you have any, you can check out the CDs then just rip em and return them.
post #29 of 32
Also back up all your music to an outside hard drive or into the cloud.
post #30 of 32
Thread Starter 
The thing is that since I listen to edm, lots of music I have is and never will be released in cd format. There are lots of singles and eps that are only available digitally. I've decided from now on that I'll buy everything I can on cd, but if unavailable on cd I'll buy a 320 Kbps mp3 copy off of beat port. I'm still going to rebuy every album I can though, I would very much like to amass a small collection of CDs.
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