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post #1 of 27
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can i use a receiver as a headphone and dac? if so, is it worth doin or should i just buy an amp and dac?

 

ive been checkin out these receivers

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60414&vpn=TX-SR309%28B%29&manufacture=ONKYO&promoid=1230

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/pioneer-pioneer-5-1-channel-receiver-vsx-522-k-vsx-522-k/10195813.aspx?path=a96eacc374a68541f9cff865c0d33b74en02

 

i want to use it to connect to my computer. also, im on the fence about buyin an xbox 360 to play halo 4. if i do, i think the receiver will allow me to connect my headphones to the xbox, right?

 

the equipment i plan to use are: HD 598, ATH-M50 and Klipsch ProMedia 2.1.


Edited by Thilly - 11/12/12 at 2:29pm
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Can I use a receiver as a headphone and DAC? if so, is it worth doin or should i just buy an amp and dac?

I've been checkin out these receivers

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60414&vpn=TX-SR309%28B%29&manufacture=ONKYO&promoid=1230

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/pioneer-pioneer-5-1-channel-receiver-vsx-522-k-vsx-522-k/10195813.aspx?path=a96eacc374a68541f9cff865c0d33b74en02

I want to use it to connect to my computer. also, im on the fence about buyin an xbox 360 to play halo 4. if i do, i think the receiver will allow me to connect my headphones to the xbox, right?

The equipment i plan to use are: HD 598, ATH-M50 and Klipsch ProMedia 2.1.

I prefer Yamaha receivers, Almost all come with Yamaha's Headphone surround sound (Silent Cinema).

You could hook up you computer and xBox to a receiver.

HDMI would provide better audio quality over optical.

 

Also Creative Labs just came out with a new computer sound card (Z-series) which has optical input.

So you might be able to run optical from the xBox to the Creative Labs Z series sound card.

post #3 of 27

Heya,

 

Yes, it works fine. It's what we had before "headphone amps" existed.

 

I've used Pioneer, Denon, Onyko and Yamaha and they're all great. Vintage ones are great too.

 

A lot of the newer AVR's have nice surround effects they can apply to headphones too. Great for gamers. Great for movies. Great for music too. Yamaha has a nice thing with silent cinema.

 

Examples:

 

  

 

  

 

 

Very best,

post #4 of 27
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awesome. thanks guys

 

isnt Yamaha's Headphone surround sound the same as DTS on Onkyo?

wouldnt i want an analogue signal for audio instead of digital from hdmi?

will i be able to use the sound stage of the HD 598 to its full potential?

also, i read that having low impendance headphones would have worst sound quality than higher impandance when connected to a receiver? is this myth true?


Edited by Thilly - 11/12/12 at 5:49pm
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Isn't Yamaha's Headphone surround sound the same as DTS on Onkyo?

Wouldn't I want an analogue signal for audio instead of digital from HDMI?

Will I be able to use the sound stage of the HD 598 to its full potential?

also, I read that having low impendance headphones would have worst sound quality than higher impendance when connected to a receiver? is this myth true?

Yamaha's Silent Cinema, Dolby Headphone and DTS Surround are three separate headphone surround sound technologies.

 

Analog from your xBox is 2-channel of analog (PCM) audio

Optical from your xBox is up to 6-channels (5.1) of compressed digital audio, 24-bit/48KHz

HDMI digital from your xBox is up to 8-channels (7.1) of uncompressed (PCM) digital audio, 24-bit/192KHz

High Ohm (impedance) headphones do work better with a receiver's headphone jack.

My 50-Ohm HD558s sound fine with my Yamaha RX-V671 receiver.

post #6 of 27
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that makes sense. how do you have your receiver connected to your computer? 

do i need a high end sound card? im using onboard right now because my computer wont recognize my Xonar DG any more for some reason, but im tryin to get it resolved.


Edited by Thilly - 11/12/12 at 8:32pm
post #7 of 27
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That makes sense. how do you have your receiver connected to your computer? 

Do I need a high end sound card? I'm using on-board audio right now because my computer wont recognize my Xonar DG any more for some reason, but I'm trying to get it resolved.

I do not ever really hook my computer to my receiver, I think about doing it in the future.

If your motherboard comes with S/PDIF (optical or coaxial) output or you connect HDMI from your computer's graphics to the receiver,

you will not need to use an add-on sound card.


Edited by PurpleAngel - 11/12/12 at 9:31pm
post #8 of 27
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that makes sense. how do you have your receiver connected to your computer? 

do i need a high end sound card? im using onboard right now because my computer wont recognize my Xonar DG any more for some reason, but im tryin to get it resolved.

 

Heya,

 

Simply output via optical or spdiff to the receiver. Your soundcard/computer will have nothing to do with the audio. It simply passes it on to the receiver via spdiff/optical. No sound card at all required if your motherboard has optical/spdiff on it already. Simply set it to default in windows in control panel.

 

Very best,

post #9 of 27
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I do not ever really hook my computer to my receiver, I think about doing it in the future.
If your motherboard comes with S/PDIF (optical or coaxial) output or you connect HDMI from your computer's graphics to the receiver,
you will not need to use an add-on sound card.

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Heya,

Simply output via optical or spdiff to the receiver. Your soundcard/computer will have nothing to do with the audio. It simply passes it on to the receiver via spdiff/optical. No sound card at all required if your motherboard has optical/spdiff on it already. Simply set it to default in windows in control panel.

Very best,

Seems like ill be using hdmi, then ill just need to set my audio output to hdmi? seems easy.

I came across the audyssey thread. Seems like it isnt available for receivers in my budget (~$200 CAD). Would it be necessary for a 2.1 setup? Is it something i have to get?

I had another question, but cant remember it. Ill come back with it when i remember.
post #10 of 27
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Seems like ill be using HDMI, then I'll just need to set my audio output to HDMI? seems easy.
I came across the Audyssey thread. Seems like it isn't available for receivers in my budget (~$200 CAD). Would it be necessary for a 2.1 setup? Is it something i have to get?
I had another question, but cant remember it. I'll come back with it when I remember.

Yes, you set your audio output to HDMI.

 

You can manually set your speakers in the receivers setup menu.

People were doing that long before Audyssey came out.


Edited by PurpleAngel - 11/13/12 at 8:31am
post #11 of 27
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Use set your audio output to HDMI.

You can manually set your speakers in the receivers setup menu.
People were doing that long before Audyssey came out.

Manually set the treble, mid and bass? Thats just about all i know to do lol.
post #12 of 27
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Manually set the treble, mid and bass? Thats just about all i know to do lol.

Should be lots of audio websites out there that can inform you on what settings to use.

post #13 of 27

You sure can though none of my receivers has had headphone outs that I preferred over my dedicated headphone amplifiers I had at the time. most has been decent only one horrific which was the Yamaha RX-V663. That was such an awful receiver. Nothing ever sounded good from it. As for silent Cinema it does nothing for me though it don´t distort the sound as much as for example dolby headphone.

 

I don´t want to diss Yamaha to much because I found a used Yamaha RDS440 or something like that. Older, entry level no HDMI but it performs a lot better. Currently run an Onkyo 709 which is surely okay but still not up to par with my Audio GD C-2.1 and Trafomatic Head One. Can´t wait to try it out of the speaker terminals though.

post #14 of 27
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when it comes to gaming, are the dacs in the receivers on par with external dacs? some one might've answered this but im not very good with reading between the lines. a simple yes or no will be good with me.

 

i guess the last thing i need to find out is, which receiver would be the best bang for my buck for gaming? in my first post, i have links to two receiver that i am willing to buy. are those worthy of buying?


Edited by Thilly - 11/13/12 at 10:12am
post #15 of 27
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when it comes to gaming, are the dacs in the receivers on par with external dacs? some one might've answered this but im not very good with reading between the lines. a simple yes or no will be good with me.

 

i guess the last thing i need to find out is, which receiver would be the best bang for my buck for gaming? in my first post, i have links to two receiver that i am willing to buy. are those worthy of buying?

 

Yes.

 

Best bang for the buck receiver. (based on cost)

 

Very best,

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