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post #466 of 563
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Originally Posted by 65535 View Post
 

That's an interesting idea. My boss has told me to come up with some ways to expand our business, maybe we could convince Jan to have a US partner making alternative versions of his products with additional features. But is there a market?

 

 

I'm pretty sure that Jan has actually been licensing out his circuit design already, so your suggestion sounds perfectly viable...but like you said, maybe not enough of a market yet? 

post #467 of 563
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I have not. I've heard good things though-- you dig it? 

 

 

I like it personally but sometimes I keep it on or off depending on my mood.  It's honestly not for everybody.  At first it appears to change the tonality to a large degree if you are used to recordings sounding a certain way.  The reason being is it more accurately adjusts the stage to simulate the placement of speakers so certain parts of the music that may have seemed more forward without may be placed farther back in the soundstage.  

 

After using long enough, you begin to realize the soundstage is actually being placed properly and turning it off causes some instruments to akwardly sound like they are behind you when they shouldn't be in some cases.  It does however require about a 5 to 6db reduction for dsp headroom so on recordings with lower level you may max out your amps gain.

post #468 of 563

No reason you couldn't compensate with a small gain section before the cross feed circuit.

 

With anything audio, preferences vary a lot, I personally like the way corssfeed sounds, considering the loss in signal of a few dB the gut instinct is that it sounds worse, level matching is tough and necessary to get the most unbiased view on equipment.

post #469 of 563

I use the crossfeed when I'm playing original mono albums that are remastered in stereo, ex. any of the first three Beatle recordings, instruments right and voices left, sort of annoying in faux stereo.  

post #470 of 563
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Actually I have. Interesting you ask. Part Time Audiophile publisher Scot Hull has one and we are doing a head-up joint review on both the Modwright and stock units together. Actually Friday i will hear it at Scot house. I have heard one before in the NY winter meet.


So are you sold on the upgrade after the comparison ?

post #471 of 563

unfortunately I needed to reschedule, my sister in law passed away. I will get there soon.

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unfortunately I needed to reschedule, my sister in law passed away. I will get there soon.

:( sorry to hear that, My Condolences.

post #473 of 563

Frank, so sorry to  hear that...thoughts and prayers headed in the direction of you and your family

post #474 of 563

thank  you guys appreciate the thoughts

post #475 of 563

Dear headfellows,

 

from the comments on Head-Fi it shows that various people seem to be somewhat disappointed by the CLASSIC/DACCORD-review on Headfonia.

 

To be honest, although Lieven clearly stated that the CLASSIC is not his favourite amp, I myself am pretty pleased by this review. The sonic signatures of amp and DAC were well and honestly described and the merits of this combo were made clear. Lieven did recognize the qualities of both devices, just indicated that his personal preferences with regard to the amp were somewhat different. That is a very valid and honorable approach.

 

On my website you will never find a sentence like “this is the very best amplifier on the market” or “you won’t find any better headphone than this”. The appreciation of equipment is a very personal one. I do sell headphones that personally I don’t like very much but whose merits I do recognize nonetheless and of whom I can understand that other people adore them. There simply isn’t something like the “best” or “this amp suits all”.

 

Yes, I don’t feel very comfortable with the reviews by Mike. His personal preferences clearly are not my preferences and as he clearly doesn’t like the CORDA sound he did “bash” them. The distinction between “technical” merits and personal taste was not made. The description of e.g. crossfeed was strongly lacking. And a remark that CORDA equipment is well suited for sound-engineers but not for consumers I personally find rather “strange”. Sound-engineers spend thousands of dollars on studio-equipment that should be as neutral as possible to make their recordings and mixings sound as good as they can and then this kind of equipment shouldn’t be suited for consumers??

 

In this context one should well be aware that it is probably the most difficult discipline to make a neutral piece of equipment that still sounds musical and fluent without any solid-state nastinesses / harshnesses. To make a warm sounding amp with more “Oomph” without ultimate detail is a much easier exercise. The fact that many amps have such “consumer-friendly” sound may well have to do with this, not just by the “average” taste.

 

CORDA amplifiers do not produce a WOW-effect! I’ve learned that equipment that does something particularly well always has deficits in other disciplines. Although maybe lots of fun at first hearing they’re often not well suited for long-term use because they always superimpose their own character on the sound. Sometimes in a nice way, but sometimes also in a negative way. Equipment that simply gets out of the way and doesn’t add anything to the recording and doesn’t leave anything out to my ears is much more satisfying in the long run. That’s how I personally like it and that’s how I design my products.

 

As a side note please be aware that it is quite simple to change to sound of both CLASSIC and DACCORD. The opamps used in these devices are socketed and can be easily exchanged by other brands/models. A different opamp really can make a difference in sound.

 

Parameters for the opamps:

 

Enclosure: 8-pin PDIP
Suppyvoltages CLASSIC: +/- 18V
Suppyvoltages DACCORD: +/- 15V
Pin2: -input
Pin3: +input
Pin4: -18V / -15V
Pin6: output
Pin7: +18V / +15V
Pin1/5/8: Not connected (NC)

 

Both the CLASSIC and the DACCORD need 6 opamps each.

 

Should people do experiment with opamps their comments on Head-Fi would be strongly appreciated.

 

Cheers

 

Jan

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Edited by Jan Meier - 3/10/14 at 4:36am
post #477 of 563
Well said, Jan.
post #478 of 563
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Originally Posted by Jan Meier View Post
 

 

from the comments on Head-Fi it shows that various people seem to be somewhat disappointed by the CLASSIC/DACCORD-review on Headfonia.

 

To be honest, although Lieven clearly stated that the CLASSIC is not his favourite amp, I myself am pretty pleased by this review. The sonic signatures of amp and DAC were well and honestly described and the merits of this combo were made clear. Lieven did recognize the qualities of both devices, just indicated that his personal preferences with regard to the amp were somewhat different. That is a very valid and honorable approach.

 

 

 

I'm glad you're happy with the review, it are your products after all they're talking about. I got exactly the feeling you got from the review too, but apparently some here just read it wasn't the absolute best dac/amp for the reviewer and therefor started "bashing" him. That's too bad. Making a review takes a lot of time and reviewers in general earn more respect (especially those who are serious about it). Therefor I always read and think twice before posting a comment on someone's work. I wouldn't like people killing my hard work just cause they're not happy enough. I can understand that as an owner you only want to read the best about your gear, but seriously, that is never going to happen guys.

 

Sorry for the rant :D

post #479 of 563
I actually havent seen ANYONE bash the reviewer for not saying Meier gear was the best
Edited by Focker - 3/10/14 at 6:32am
post #480 of 563

Really? Maybe read between the lines then? That's at least how I perceived it, and apparently Mr. Meier noticed it too.

I don't want to argue with you, so I'm leaving it with this.

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