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post #376 of 671

I have the T5p and Daccord and have used them together, but I've never done A/B comparisons with another DAC. My general impression is that while the Daccord is a bit less than ideal for the LCD-2.1 (especially when using the Lyr, smooth + smooth + smooth ends up being too much of a good thing IMO), it works very well with the T5p. FYI, I use an M^3 amp when listening to the T5p on this setup, which is a very competent amp, but I sometimes think might be just a slight touch on the dark side. 

 

The generally smooth and inviting sounds signature of the Daccord seems like it would lend itself well to any highly resolving, treble-tipped cans-- and the T5p fits snugly into that category IME. Wish I had some more detailed impressions for you, but this is all I have at the moment. If you have any specific questions, let me know and I'll try to answer them!

post #377 of 671
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Originally Posted by Theogenes View Post
 

I have the T5p and Daccord and have used them together, but I've never done A/B comparisons with another DAC. My general impression is that while the Daccord is a bit less than ideal for the LCD-2.1 (especially when using the Lyr, smooth + smooth + smooth ends up being too much of a good thing IMO), it works very well with the T5p. FYI, I use an M^3 amp when listening to the T5p on this setup, which is a very competent amp, but I sometimes think might be just a slight touch on the dark side. 

 

The generally smooth and inviting sounds signature of the Daccord seems like it would lend itself well to any highly resolving, treble-tipped cans-- and the T5p fits snugly into that category IME. Wish I had some more detailed impressions for you, but this is all I have at the moment. If you have any specific questions, let me know and I'll try to answer them!

 

Hello Theogenes

 

Many thanks for the insight! I'm somewhat intrigued by the Wolfson DAC in the Daccord since in my past experience Wolfson tends to be rather meaty, bassy in terms of sound. My questions are how does this Daccord affect the bass and body of the T5p and also what does the Crossfade feature do to the soundstage of the T5p when activated?

post #378 of 671

In my quest to try out every input on the Daccord and every output with the OPPO BDP-105 I may have found the best possible audio nirvana with this combo with CD play.

 

OPPO Balanced XLR output>RCA balanced Y>coax input Daccord.  Beats the hell out of the other inputs.  Tom Petty's "Full Moon Fever" came alive tonight with a very finicky and picky HD800.  Previous trials on optical and coax inputs made me question the quality of the recording.  XLR channeled the dynamic soundstage and imaging to depths I had previously not heard.  

 

XLR balanced inputs on the Daccord would make this all a little less complicated.

post #379 of 671

I already posted this in the "Help and Getting Started" section but I think I'll find the right people from this thread:

 

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Hi, Head-fi!

 

I've been lurking here for months and everytime I try to find information regarding this setup - with either of these headphones - I keep changing my mind. I found lots of positive comments about the Corda stack bundled with Beyerdynamic T1, but not that much information how they would pair with Sennheiser HD800.

 

I was also thinking about getting Woo Audio WA7 with HD800 but the DAC of WA7 is lacking. I would need more than the USB input (optical + coax is minimum). And I don't really want to deal with tubes and the heating. Or paying the customs plus shipping from the US.

 

My budget is around 2,000 euros (Corda Daccord + Classic is about 1040 euros at the moment). Here are the pros and cons so far:

 

HD800:

 

+ Bigger soundstage.

+ Better comfort? I read that T1s are awesome as well but HD800s weight less, I guess.

+ The cable is easily re-changeable.

+ I like the looks more, even though this a non-factor, really.

+ 3 year warranty.

+ Better reseale value, I would think.

 

- Here in Finland, they cost almost 200 euros more than the T1 (800 euros vs. 980 euros).

- They need a good DAC/AMP. Is the Corda stack good enough? Would a tube amp be more ideal than a SS amp?

 

T1:

 

+ A good all-around headphone, works well with all kinds of music.

+ Cheaper.

+ Should have a GREAT synergy with the Corda stack (according to the comments on this forum I've read).

 

- Only a-two-year warranty.

 

And here's the big question that could be the game changer for me: Which one is better suited for movies and games? I would be using the setup 50/50 between music and movies/games. Wouldn't the bigger soundstage of HD800s be a huge advantage? Of course I would like to have decent bass also (which is a little bit better in T1s, right?), but I would think that the soundstage creates more immersion in movies and games. The Corda DAC/AMP has also a crossfeed option. Could this improve the soundstage even more?

 

Anyway, thanks a lot if someone cares enough to give me some pointers! I really have no idea which way to go.

 

Any thoughts?

post #380 of 671

I'll address a part of that..

 

The crossfeed doesn't really impact the size of the sound stage, per se. What it does is allow the presentation to be experienced far more naturally than what headphones by themselves typically would be able to do. Jan can explain it much better than I can, so take a few minutes and read through what he wrote about it here: http://www.meier-audio.homepage.t-online.de/crossfeed.htm

 

I typically would be against such things, just as I'm against use of any tone controls, DSPs, etc. I'm a bit of a "casual purist", meaning I don't go out of my way to make a formal pursuit of it, but part of my philosophy of audio reproduction is to keep the signal path as simple and clean as possible. Just my own preference. 

 

The beautiful thing about the crossfeed - especially the full circuit, such as is found in his Daccord and Classic - is that it has ZERO impact on tonality. That's a huge thing for me. I had experienced the crossfeed prior to actually reading much about it, so when I saw Jan put it into words and explain it more clearly, it made me respect him even more because I knew that he wasn't selling a bill of goods. What he described was *exactly* what I had been experiencing in a very subtle way with just his Jazz amp. So when I upgraded to the stack, I was absolutely thrilled with the results of the full crossfeed circuit. 

 

I'm glad to see that you are using headphones to enjoy movies, as well...I never thought I'd love to use good headphones for movies to this degree...what a great ride! I've only heard the HD800s with music, but I would guess they would be amazing with movies, too. The T1s have always been fantastic with movies.  Both are very comfortable, so that goes a long way toward enjoying movies, too.  I've owned the T1s for a couple years and have no intent to sell them. Very nice all-rounders that really do having fantastic synergy with the Meier gear. 

 

I would encourage you to get Jan's feedback, as well. He's very accessible via email and I can assure you that his reputation among head-fi members that he shoots straight and gives honest opinion is very well deserved. He has extensive experience with both the T1s and HD800s. Additionally, he offers very attractive package deals when you pick up a headphone along with his gear. He carries both the T1 and HD800. Just FYI....

 

Good luck! 


Edited by Focker - 2/17/14 at 2:07am
post #381 of 671
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post
 

 

I would encourage you to get Jan's feedback, as well. He's very accessible via email and I can assure you that his reputation among head-fi members that he shoots straight and gives honest opinion is very well deserved. He has extensive experience with both the T1s and HD800s. Additionally, he offers very attractive package deals when you pick up a headphone along with his gear. He carries both the T1 and HD800. Just FYI....

 

+1 

 

@Scarfin : HD800 vs T1 is a long story.... What music do you listen to mainly? 

post #382 of 671

Thanks, Focker! I've already read almost all of your posts in this thread before joining and I was pretty much set in stone gettin the T1s. Aaaand then I got lost in some T1 vs. HD800 threads and I'm not so sure anymore. The Corda stack is a no-brainer, though. Just gotta find the right HPs.

 

About watching movies with headphones. It's unfortunately not possible for me the get a good home theatre setup in my appartment without pissing of the neighbours. And I really like the intimacy of headphones, anyway!

 

Thanks for the crossfeed information, too! That cleared up some things. I'll send Jan a message. He really seems like a great guy!

 

 

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Originally Posted by Sorrodje View Post
 

 

+1 

 

@Scarfin : HD800 vs T1 is a long story.... What music do you listen to mainly? 

 

Mainly rock, metal and EDM. Sometimes orchestral movie soundtracks. I've heard that T1s are the king of rock but HD800s are great for classical music because of the soundstage.

post #383 of 671

Go for T1 then ;)  .. My 2 cents. 

post #384 of 671

I have the Meir classic and daccord Jan sent me to review. The Daccord was new so I am using it and like what I hear and have it hooked up to the Meir amp with the Oppo BDP 105 to do some comparisons with the ESS dacs in the 105/. 

post #385 of 671
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post
 

I have the Meir classic and daccord Jan sent me to review. The Daccord was new so I am using it and like what I hear and have it hooked up to the Meir amp with the Oppo BDP 105 to do some comparisons with the ESS dacs in the 105/. 

 

It seems that you have also reviewed the WA7 Fireflies. If you happen to have HD800s and/or T1s, could you compare the Corda stack against the WA7? I've been wondering which DAC/AMP is better bang for the buck with HD800/T1.

post #386 of 671
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post
 

I have the Meir classic and daccord Jan sent me to review. The Daccord was new so I am using it and like what I hear and have it hooked up to the Meir amp with the Oppo BDP 105 to do some comparisons with the ESS dacs in the 105/. 

 

Nice, Frank! So glad that Jan's gear will get some well-deserved attention. 

 

I think I have my sights set on my fifth Meier purchase coming up soon...his little Quickstep portable. 

post #387 of 671
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Originally Posted by Scarfin View Post
 

Thanks, Focker! I've already read almost all of your posts in this thread before joining and I was pretty much set in stone gettin the T1s. Aaaand then I got lost in some T1 vs. HD800 threads and I'm not so sure anymore. The Corda stack is a no-brainer, though. Just gotta find the right HPs.

 

About watching movies with headphones. It's unfortunately not possible for me the get a good home theatre setup in my appartment without pissing of the neighbours. And I really like the intimacy of headphones, anyway!

 

Thanks for the crossfeed information, too! That cleared up some things. I'll send Jan a message. He really seems like a great guy!

 

 

I have a tremendous about of respect for Jan. The guy has been a tremendous help to me for nearly 2.5 years and I can't tell you how much enjoyment his products have given me. I'm always eager to share my opinion with others, as well, because Jan relies exclusively on word of mouth so that he can keep prices as low as possible. I enjoy being a Meier customer, as you have probably been able to tell since you say you've seen some of my other posts :)

 

If you're set on the stack and just deciding between the Senns and the T1s, there is good news and bad news....the bad news is that it's a really tough decision to settle on...the good news is that you really can't go wrong either way! 

post #388 of 671
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Originally Posted by Scarfin View Post
 

 

It seems that you have also reviewed the WA7 Fireflies. If you happen to have HD800s and/or T1s, could you compare the Corda stack against the WA7? I've been wondering which DAC/AMP is better bang for the buck with HD800/T1.

I have the hd800 and can do it from memory as the WA7 is no longer in my possession but I can tell you the daccord is better dac,  I will let you guys know and include it in my review.

post #389 of 671
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post
 

 

Nice, Frank! So glad that Jan's gear will get some well-deserved attention. 

 

I think I have my sights set on my fifth Meier purchase coming up soon...his little Quickstep portable. 

I will makes sure these pieces are reviewed with plenty of exposure.  I usually have a decent amount of followers  so will see that these pieces receive the attention they deserve.

post #390 of 671
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post
 

I will makes sure these pieces are reviewed with plenty of exposure.  I usually have a decent amount of followers  so will see that these pieces receive the attention they deserve.

 

I know you have a very solid reputation both here and over at the Circle, so this is really great news. It just amazes me how there is thread after thread where gear options are discussed, yet Jan's gear seems to never be on anyone's radar. 

 

It's funny cause just the other day I made a bit of a bet with a fellow head-fi'er. I told him that I was so confident that I would still have my Meier stack as my primary gear two years from now that if I was wrong I would run out in the street in my underwear and let him record it to post on head-fi for all to see. :popcorn:

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