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post #196 of 563
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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post

I've been able to sustain myself solely off of the sweet, sweet sounds of the Daccord/Classic combo since I got it - so it has more than paid for itself as I no longer have to buy food!

 

Wow, and you're using it with the LCDs? That's very interesting, cause if there is any headphone I may yet add to my collection, that's the one. Sounds like the Meier combo takes very good care of those beautiful Audez'es!

 

 

Also, guys, if I had any doubt about how I felt about this DAC (I didn't, but just go with it lol), it has been put to rest over the last several hours. I had spent the early part of Saturday night watching a movie on the T1s. I'm just completely amazed at how incredible the audio is with movies! And since I've already spent a fair amount of time with the Meier/T1 combo listening to music, I thought I'd see what this Daccord could REALLY do.

 

I disconnected it from the Classic and introduced it to my super-budget, but super good Little Dot I+ hybrid tube amp. I don't remember how much I paid for this thing, but it was somewhere around $130. It's basically become my dedicated Grado amp since it just seems to pair so well with them. I love how the Grados basically put you up on stage with the performers, or maybe somewhere dead center in the first row, and I was eager to see where the PS500s would transport me tonight. I made sure the crossfeed was engaged, warmed up my LD, and a short time after that Patty Griffin began to sing. It's an MP3 recording of "Up to the Mountain" from a "Live at the Artists Den" performance. You guys probably already know what's coming...the Daccord took my Little Dot to a level of performance I never knew it was capable of reaching. That same amazing sound stage, imaging, and separation was there in spades just as it was with the Classic amp and T1 phones, and I listened in disbelief. This little budget amp was transformed into something really special and it just cemented my decision to stick with this amp for my Grado phones and not even worry about upgrading. 

 

So now I've got my Audioquest splitters back in play coming out of the Daccord, feeding both the Corda Classic for the T1s and also the Little Dot I+ for my Grados. Whatever Jan put into this DAC, it's good stuff! 

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post #197 of 563

Has anyone used the Daccord/Classic stack with HE-500's?  I'd love to know any thoughts on that combo - and ideally that vs the Bifrst/Lyr stack.

post #198 of 563

So far the only other HP I've used with my new Meier DAC/Amp other than the T1 is my Austrian made Vintage AKG 240K Sextet, this is an original LP version of the Sextet.  Really hard to drive at 600 ohms and not as efficient as the 600 ohm T1's.  The vintage AKG is finding real synergy with the Meier equipment. They sound amazing, very musical with outstanding mids and imaging.  Lesser equipment seriously made me question if they weren't broken. With help from the Vintage headphone thread I'm getting these old HP's up to snuff.smile.gif

 

post #199 of 563
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IMO the Daccord's predecessor - Stagedac - is considerably more balanced and natural than the non-ubered bifrost (based on listening with LCD2, T1, Grado RS1, Stax lambda pro). The latter has great clarity and a slight tendency to brightness, but is harmonically 'bleached'. This makes rich instruments like piano and cello decay unnaturally fast. Although they still sound tonally correct, the timbral information you get with their sustain/decay characteristics is missing. The flip side is bifrost shows itself best with fast-paced, busy music - but not 'better' than stagedac to my hearing.

Lyr versus Classic is harder to say, as Lyr has been 'found' (refer schiit tube-rolling thread) to reach its potential only with very costly tubes. These + Lyr > $1000 eek.gif With cheaper tubes, Lyr can sound good but I prefer the classic (and concerto) by a large margin. The classic in particular does everything extremely well. I understand from Anaxilus the Lyr was developed with proper voicing uppermost rather than resolution and detail. Anaxilus and Purrin have or have had a lot of contact with Jason of Schiit, especially during development of gungnir and mjolnir.

I have not heard the HE500.

It's great to see all you happy owners of Jan's latest gear beerchug.gif
post #200 of 563
I don't usually fire up my Beyer DT1350s on my home rig, but the Meier stack does amazing things with them...I had no idea they scaled up this much. Ridiculous! I may need to get one of Jan's portable amps for these things...
post #201 of 563

Thank you very much for your thoughtful response!

post #202 of 563
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Originally Posted by bigfatpaulie View Post

Thank you very much for your thoughtful response!

Can't speak for the HE-500, as I don't own one, but they make my HE-400's sing. The Meier stack kicks the butt out of my Bellari tube amp.  After more than a week with the Meier stack, I can say they approximate digital music to what I would describe as a more natural vinyl sound. They take the sub bass and bass, which the HE-400's excel at, to another level. 

post #203 of 563
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Originally Posted by RUMAY408 View Post

Can't speak for the HE-500, as I don't own one, but they make my HE-400's sing. The Meier stack kicks the butt out of my Bellari tube amp.  After more than a week with the Meier stack, I can say they approximate digital music to what I would describe as a more natural vinyl sound. They take the sub bass and bass, which the HE-400's excel at, to another level. 

 

Yep, that's exactly what the 1350s are doing now...they were hitting a bit harder even with the Jazz, but on the new gear the performance is even more impressive. I didn't think these little portables would scale up quite this much. 

post #204 of 563

My DACCORD just left New Jersey! - according to the tracking information.

 

I feel like a kid before Christmas.

post #205 of 563
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Originally Posted by howie75 View Post

My DACCORD just left New Jersey! - according to the tracking information.

 

I feel like a kid before Christmas.

 

Nice! Once you get some time on it, please do me a favor and listen for more depth and layers to the sound stage. So far two others have corroborated this for me, so I'll be interested to see if you also concur. To me, that's one of the most amazing features of this excellent product. I've had tube gear that gave my speakers more depth to the sound, but I honestly didn't think it was possible for a headphone rig to do this. I see you have those very nice Sennheiser 650s...I've only heard the HD800s and I have a pair of Amperiors on the way, but I've heard that the 650s will definitely scale up...so I'm really interested to hear your feedback. I think Jan's favorite two brands of phones are BeyerD and Sennheiser, so I think you may end up falling in love with this Dac as much as the rest of us have. 

 

Also, fire up some Jack Johnson if you can...honestly, you'll think the guy is right there in your listening room playing a private concert. 

post #206 of 563
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Originally Posted by bigfatpaulie View Post

Has anyone used the Daccord/Classic 
stack with HE-500's?  I'd love to know any thoughts on that combo - and ideally that vs the Bifrst/Lyr stack.

I used that combo for a bit. Sounded great. Bass had nice control and extension. Can't compare to the schiit gear though
post #207 of 563

Thank you again. 

 

It's interesting that the Meier crowed doesn't seem to dabble in Schitt gear and vice versa.  

 

Looking over the thread I see MANY people have T1's.  Are you driving them with the Meier stack?  How is that combo?  I imagine it is going to be exceptionally detailed and clean, but is it involving?

post #208 of 563
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^ Schiit Lyr and Schiit Bifrost (soon to be +uber) here, along with my Meier Stagedac, Opera, Concerto and Classic. Strongly considering the forthcoming Schiit yggdrasil (sp?) DAC too.

I think it may be Schiit and Meier have different market appeal (Meier refined, neutral; Schiit power), even though I think their design goals are similar (honest, uncompromising, VFM).

Reports of Mjolnir as an uncompromising, highly detailed ("vigilant", Purrin, 2012) amp has me curious about a Concerto vs Mjolnir comparison.
post #209 of 563
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Originally Posted by AiDee View Post

^ Schiit Lyr and Schiit Bifrost (soon to be +uber) here, along with my Meier Stagedac, Opera, Concerto and Classic. Strongly considering the forthcoming Schiit yggdrasil (sp?) DAC too.

I think it may be Schiit and Meier have different market appeal (Meier refined, neutral; Schiit power), even though I think their design goals are similar (honest, uncompromising, VFM).

Reports of Mjolnir as an uncompromising, highly detailed ("vigilant", Purrin, 2012) amp has me curious about a Concerto vs Mjolnir comparison.

I was looking at that. It comes down to among other things, Wolfson Dac (Meier) vs. (Schiit) AKM Dac.  I like the warmer Dac. It's a matter of preference.

post #210 of 563
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Thank you again. 

 

It's interesting that the Meier crowed doesn't seem to dabble in Schitt gear and vice versa.  

 

Looking over the thread I see MANY people have T1's.  Are you driving them with the Meier stack?    

 

I used to have the Lyr/Bifrost stack + LCD2, but sold it all off in favour of the Meier stack + T1s. The later option made more sense for me as I prefer the neutral sound...plus the LCD2s were too heavy :S

 

 

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How is that combo?

 

Love it, sings to my ears!

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