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11/12/12 at 12:09am
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post #17 of 1008
11/12/12 at 12:52am
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I've never subscribed to the idea that more drivers is automatically better than less. In my opinion it's all about design and implementation.

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Quite interested in the 350. Two drivers is really all an iem should need for sufficient sub bass and treble extension.
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post #18 of 1008
11/12/12 at 1:09am
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Quite interested in the 350. Two drivers is really all an iem should need for sufficient sub bass and treble extension.

Me three (said the guy with a total of 16 drivers in his ears right now). Really intrigued by these as they should be flatter than Keira Knightley... Should be interesting to couple them with my ODAC/O2 setup for something truly neutral.

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post #19 of 1008
11/12/12 at 2:40am
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Also wizard has said to me the 350 will be dead flat, not percieved flat or nearly flat but FLAT.
Also I think their will be one more Heir product to be onnounced.
Wizard also mentioned he thinks they will go well with high impedance daps, he is talking about the liked of DX1000 and AK100.

 

 

      Ease up on the word "Flat" as we don't want to upset the 2cc coupler police.  There is a high Freq. boost, but it is modest, compared to another rather popular "reference" level IEM.

 

 

Wizard

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post #20 of 1008
11/12/12 at 2:50am

Hello,

 

Will be a Hisoundaudio Studio V strong enough to drive them?

 

Thank you.

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post #21 of 1008
11/12/12 at 3:02am
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      Ease up on the word "Flat" as we don't want to upset the 2cc coupler police.  There is a high Freq. boost, but it is modest, compared to another rather popular "reference" level IEM.

 

 

Wizard

Soo... you're saying they should sound and measure flatter than said reference IEM?

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post #22 of 1008
11/12/12 at 3:11am

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post #23 of 1008
11/12/12 at 4:21am

New universals from Heir... popcorn.gif

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post #24 of 1008
11/12/12 at 5:24am
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Originally Posted by Swimsonny View Post

Also wizard has said to me the 350 will be dead flat, not percieved flat or nearly flat but FLAT.
Also I think their will be one more Heir product to be onnounced.
Wizard also mentioned he thinks they will go well with high impedance daps, he is talking about the liked of DX1000 and AK100.

I like this but do we know what flat is in an IEM? I always felt that a few db more bass than an etymotic sounds flat to me and I tend to like a 'natural roll' on top as well. Will be interesting to see heir's take on this.

 

Wizard, will these be high impedance drivers or have added resistance and do you have efficiency #s? If you could make these effecient enough, DAP output impedance becomes moot.bigsmile_face.gif


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post #25 of 1008
11/12/12 at 5:31am
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Originally Posted by sly_in_the_sky View Post

Hello,

 

Will be a Hisoundaudio Studio V strong enough to drive them?

 

Thank you.

It is strong enough but whether it has enough gain will be a better question. The amp Anv 3 amp section will go louder than the player lets it. Try it line in some time.

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post #26 of 1008
11/12/12 at 6:00am

Sorry, that was exactly what I meant, strong enough to give good dynamics, precision, open soundstage, depth, strong bass and so on..all this things a good amp will give

 

.thank you for the answer.

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post #27 of 1008
11/12/12 at 6:05am

Amp will do it if it plays loud enough overall. I think we're on the same page but I thought I'd rephrase to make sure.bigsmile_face.gif It just plays akg 701s loud enough on it's own but using the amp stage line in from my touch, it plays plenty loud.


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post #28 of 1008
11/12/12 at 6:09am
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Amp will do it if it plays loud enough overall. I think we're on the same page but I thought I'd rephrase to make sure.bigsmile_face.gif It just plays akg 701s loud enough on it's own but using the amp stage line in from my touch, it plays plenty loud.

There is quite a difference between a headphone going loud enough and a headphone being properly amped. It's not just about volume levels...

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post #29 of 1008
11/12/12 at 6:10am

Subbed, really interested in these.

A shame i'll have to save up for them :/

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post #30 of 1008
11/12/12 at 6:15am
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

There is quite a difference between a headphone going loud enough and a headphone being properly amped. It's not just about volume levels...

Indeed. I review a lot of amps that can get my HD580s to a good volume (in fact i never turn them fully up) but sounds like crud.I mean my iPhone 4 can even be able to drive my HD580 to listenable levels but it is does not 'drive them efficiently'.

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