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post #136 of 149
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Originally Posted by nwavesailor View Post
 

I need to get cables / adapters to connect my gen 7 iPod Nano (line out) to the RCA input of either the Vali 2 or Project Starlight / Sunrise amp. I tried this setup using headphone out into the amp and found I lost detail. The iPod had more detail w/o the amp in this configuration so folks suggested the line out method into the amp.

 

It looks like I need to go from iPod Nano > Apple OEM Lightning to female 30 pin converter (w/built in DAC) > male 30 pin to 3.5mm male (or female?) end > 3.5mm female to L/R male RCA's into amp?

 

It would be nice to have 1 or 2 less cables to do this line out from the iPod into the amp............ and perhaps there are!

 

Any suggestions or pointing me in the right direction would be appreciated.

 

If you prefer to use the Apple 30 pins adapter, then that's the only way to do it. As you already know, the line-out signal comes from the DAC insides the adapter itself, so there is no way to avoid all the cable. It is however possible to find a 30pins to RCA cable so you don't have to go through a 3.5mm-to-3.5mm conversion.

post #137 of 149
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If you prefer to use the Apple 30 pins adapter, then that's the only way to do it. As you already know, the line-out signal comes from the DAC insides the adapter itself, so there is no way to avoid all the cable. It is however possible to find a 30pins to RCA cable so you don't have to go through a 3.5mm-to-3.5mm conversion.

 

 

Thanks, CXlieOS!

So using a male 30 pin > Male L/R RCA , I could get this done with just 2 cables:

Male Lightning to 30 pin female (starting at iPod)

Male 30 pin with male L/R RCA's (connected to RCA inputs)

 

I can find (hopefully genuine) OEM Apple Lightning to 30 pin. I assume it is important not to go cheap and stay with Apple for the (Wolfsan?) DAC in this cable?

 

Likely looking for a 'unicorn' cable here, but is there perhaps 1 cable to do this line out connection?


Edited by nwavesailor - 1/18/16 at 8:42am
post #138 of 149
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Thanks, CXlieOS!

So using a male 30 pin > Male L/R RCA , I could get this done with just 2 cables:

Male Lightning to 30 pin female (starting at iPod)

Male 30 pin with male L/R RCA's (connected to RCA inputs)

 

I can find (hopefully genuine) OEM Apple Lightning to 30 pin. I assume it is important not to go cheap and stay with Apple for the (Wolfsan?) DAC in this cable?

 

Likely looking for a 'unicorn' cable here, but is there perhaps 1 cable to do this line out connection?

 

Non genuine Apple 30pins-to-Lightning adapter doesn't have DAC inside and won't give you any line-out signal. You must buy the real one from Apple.

 

As far as I know, there is no cable that goes from Lightning to RCA.

post #139 of 149
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post
 

 

Non genuine Apple 30pins-to-Lightning adapter doesn't have DAC inside and won't give you any line-out signal. You must buy the real one from Apple.

 

As far as I know, there is no cable that goes from Lightning to RCA.


OK, I will only get the OEM Apple cable and not go crazy $$$on the cost of the male 30 pin  > RCA.

 

Thanks for this gen 7 iPod forum and helping solve our problems, ClieOS!

post #140 of 149

I received the OEM Apple Lightning to 30 pin cable (bought directly from Apple) and a male 30 pin to RCA cable. It DOES sound better than the headphone out into the Schiit Vali 2 amp!

 

The only concern I have is a dialog box that comes up on the 7th gen iPod Nano reading something like "This device is not compatible". It plays but has also lost connection a few times. It starts again after pushing the play icon. I'm not sure how long it will play without a drop out as I have been disconnecting and comparing the sound to the iPod only. I will set it up tonight and just let it play in that configuration with out any disconnects on my part.............hopefully w/o losing signal.

 

If this cable combo (line out) works, I will keep the Apple cable and Schiit Vali 2 amp or buy the Garage 1217 Ember ll. If it loses signal, I suppose the experiment is a failure and both will go back!

post #141 of 149
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Originally Posted by nwavesailor View Post
 

I received the OEM Apple Lightning to 30 pin cable (bought directly from Apple) and a male 30 pin to RCA cable. It DOES sound better than the headphone out into the Schiit Vali 2 amp!

 

The only concern I have is a dialog box that comes up on the 7th gen iPod Nano reading something like "This device is not compatible". It plays but has also lost connection a few times. It starts again after pushing the play icon. I'm not sure how long it will play without a drop out as I have been disconnecting and comparing the sound to the iPod only. I will set it up tonight and just let it play in that configuration with out any disconnects on my part.............hopefully w/o losing signal.

 

If this cable combo (line out) works, I will keep the Apple cable and Schiit Vali 2 amp or buy the Garage 1217 Ember ll. If it loses signal, I suppose the experiment is a failure and both will go back!

 

Never have any problem with compatibility between my Nano 7G and the Lightning-to-30pins adapter. Make sure you have the latest firmware though.

post #142 of 149
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Never have any problem with compatibility between my Nano 7G and the Lightning-to-30pins adapter. Make sure you have the latest firmware though.


If you look at the Apple site with the reviews of this cable, quite a few folks had issues with comaptability using there iPhones. Some got a replacement cable and others found the adapter (w/o the short cable) to work for them. As I bought it direct from the Apple Store, I suppose I could ask for another to try. Some work..............some don't. I will check the firmware on my iPod.

 

I played it for almost an hour tonight and only had the dialog box and stoppage occur one time. I am able to run the iPod at low or no volume (line out) which give me more battery life than running full volume connected using the headphone out to RCA's.

 

It does now have the detail through the amp i was missing when using the headphone out to RCA's!

 

Thanks for your help, ClieOS

post #143 of 149
I'll throw this out there again, there is greatly reduced battery life in my experience using the lightning adapters... Both wired & dock version.
post #144 of 149
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Originally Posted by WitzyZed View Post

I'll throw this out there again, there is greatly reduced battery life in my experience using the lightning adapters... Both wired & dock version.


Yep, perhaps so.

 

I get the longest battery life using just the Apple ear buds, then Bluetooth in the car.

 

I haven't used the Lightning connection enough at this point  to compare it to using headphone out at full volume into an amp. I think (hope!) it uses less battery with the volume dialed down and Lightning as line out. Driving efficient 32 ohm headphones kills the battery pretty fast too!

 

The iPod may not be the greatest source, but it sure is convenient both for it's small size, capacity  and ease of use.

post #145 of 149

I am still getting a dialog box on the iPod Nano using the Lightning to 30 pin:

 

"UNSUPPORTED"

"Accessory Is Not Supported"

 

I do have the latest firmware installed.

 

However, I am NOT losing digital signal and it just pops up one time when I first turn on the iPod and connect the Lightning cable. It does eat the battery, but sounds so much better than headphone out!

 

Thanks for pointing me towards the line out option and cable to do so!!!

post #146 of 149

I wonder if the 7g could be used as a carrier for the Chord Mojo? Does it_

 

output pure signal, no amping (through the lightining wire)?

 

Can you instal Onkyo player or something else that plays flac?

 

has anyone tried it?

post #147 of 149
I actually like using the 7G LO over its HO. Sounds better and clearer to my ears.
post #148 of 149
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Originally Posted by Marat Sar View Post
 

I wonder if the 7g could be used as a carrier for the Chord Mojo? Does it_

 

output pure signal, no amping (through the lightining wire)?

 

Can you instal Onkyo player or something else that plays flac?

 

has anyone tried it?

 

No, no, impossible, and no need to try - as the only way to use Mojo with an iDevice required that particular iDevice to run at least iOS7 and above. Given iPod nano can not run iOS, it is impossible to use Mojo with it.

post #149 of 149

Although I still get the dialog box "accessory is not supported" when using the Apple OEM Lightning to 30 pin connector, it works fine as a line out.

 

Battery goes down fast even with volume all the way down and display turned off as much as possible, but the most important thing is that it sounds very good!

 

Side note I moved from the Schitt Vali 2 amp to another inexpensive tube amp, Garage 1217 Starlight. I did like the Vali 2 but can now use 6 and 12 volt tubes as well as roll op amps. Way more detail in the Starlight with the right tubes.

 

Thanks again to ClieOS for helping me resolve this issue.

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