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Nagra SD as a DAP. Has anybody tried?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hi all!
I'm interested in this recorder. The primary thing is sound quality. Any experience? What ear/headphones? I mean just for LISTENING to music. I know that i would need to buy a mic for recording.
There's not much info on the Internet, i found only one link, but i do not know Chinese, and Google would not translate it:(
http://www.erji.net/read.php?tid=1122734
Thanks for any replies!

UPD
I found this comparison:http://www.erji.com/index.php?m=content&c=index&a=show&catid=39&id=915
Currently I have a PCM D50, so i'm really interested, what recorder was the winner!
I tried online translation- could understand nothing:(
Maybe some Chinese-speaking headfier could tel in a couple of words about that comparison?
I would appreciate that VERY much!
Also i'd like to know how good Nagra sounded with SE535 from that review...
Edited by aqtaket - 11/9/12 at 4:12am
post #2 of 13
Thread Starter 
Noone?
At least maybe any Chinese speaker can tell how Nagra performs compared to Sony PCM D50?frown.gif
http://www.erji.com/index.php?m=content&c=index&a=show&catid=39&id=915
Edited by aqtaket - 11/10/12 at 9:43pm
post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by aqtaket View Post

Noone?
At least maybe any Chinese speaker can tell how Nagra performs compared to Sony PCM D50?frown.gif
http://www.erji.com/index.php?m=content&c=index&a=show&catid=39&id=915

Try google web pages translate.I did always worked for me, when i wanted to read about AK100

post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks, but I tried... The translation really leaves much to be desired- i got no useful info at all:(
post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by aqtaket View Post

Thanks, but I tried... The translation really leaves much to be desired- i got no useful info at all:(

 

Now how can you say that, before this I had no idea that "Nagra" (apparently) means "pumpkin" in Chinese.

 

That being said, I have a Nagra SD, but unfortunately I'm not the right kind of person to help you with your questions - I don't find any noteworthy differences in sound quality among modern DAPs, for example. The only thing that bothers me on the Nagra in this regard is the lack of gapless, but I'm more willing to forgive that in this case as it is a recorder engineered by recorder engineers, not an audio player designed by people who should care about playback.

 

My reasons for buying it were the metal construction, physical buttons, usage of AA batteries, and that I can put all my music onto it (it works with 128GB SD-cards). However, it is not very userfriendly for playback. Music selection is file based, but it can display some tag info. No playlists, no equalizer or any other sound settings except volume. The interface feels clunkier than on Sony recorders, some aspects are designed quite poorly. It seems stable, though. At first it could not even play back files in any reasonable order, but that was fixed by a firmware update.

post #6 of 13
Thread Starter 
Zakalwe,
thanks a bunch for your feedback! Yep, I realized, that "Pumpkin" is Nagra, too. First I thought that Pumpkin is a term for IEMs in Chinese%)
The only thing i got from the comparison is that the Nagra and PCM-D50 are "great friends". I'm pretty sure these are translation issues, Chinese is really a special type of language for electronic translation.And I caught that the author of the review/comparison had chosen PCM D50 as a winner, as "there are more users of it and the Pumpkin is expensive"- something like that.
I was just hoping that on the Head-fi there should be a person who uses Nagra SD as a DAP or had an opportunity to compare it with my current portable source PCM D50. Gapless playback is not an important thing for me, I just wanna know if the Pumpkin worth the money it is sold for. I also have an Olympus l11 and ZOOM H4 - they stayed with me from some previous job, SONY PCM-D50 makes them both in playback SQ and recording (fixed mics, of course). So the manufacturer listed specs of the devices are nothing that's why I'd love to know the experience of the teal users...
post #7 of 13

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Edited by seeteeyou - 11/4/14 at 11:49pm
post #8 of 13

@seeteeyou: Ah, I thought it was some mess-up in Google's autotranslate, did not understand they actually did use "pumpkin" on the forums. :)

 

Interesting, this about the recorder clones. I cannot make much sense of the threads you linked, but it sure looks like some OEM shenanigans. I know Nagra has been outsourcing some production to China, and given that the SD is quite a bit cheaper than most of what they sell, I would not be too surprised if it is made by someone else.


Edited by Zakalwe - 11/12/12 at 5:16am
post #9 of 13

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Edited by seeteeyou - 11/4/14 at 11:49pm
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 

Wow guys, thanks a lot for your comments, no I think that I would keep away from Nagra SD.

As for MARANTZ, the should be som newer version available, I think it might be interesting:

http://usa.d-mpro.com/us/denon/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=AudioRecordingandPlayback&SubCatId=HandheldandPortableRecorders&ProductId=PMD661MKIIHandheldSolidStateRecorder

The question is the sound quality, I wonder if it will be better than my Sony PCM-D50.

And yeah, I'm really curious were they build these units - wold be great if still in Japan...

post #11 of 13

about this comparison http://www.erji.com/index.php?m=content&c=index&a=show&catid=39&id=915 , in a word , the PO of SD is better than D50 .

post #12 of 13

As expected but many of these type devices don't have 'special' amp stages and are meant either for cans and generally just for monitoring, not top playback. They also tend to play only one file at a time.

 

 Of course the Nagra is made in China or it would cost double and not sell. Doesn't mean it's just another Chinese product. It will still cost a premium and be QC'd as such.

post #13 of 13

Sure looks kick *****. Wish Nagra would biuld a proper DAP

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