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post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

The Acoustic Symmetry thing is stated to match each earpiece at +/-1dB. But this doesn't really mean that the W4s can't have this. In fact, they had probably meant that they did check for the W4R more carefully, and that the W4s had more variance. Not to say that the W4s can't be matched perfectly, just that they aren't as consistent. If you still have both on hand right now, I would really like to see some blind ABX tests/volume level measurements to reaffirm this. You would probably be one of the first to do so! 

 

As an aside, I just attempted to measure the volume on each individual earpiece with some cardboard, foam, and a SPL meter. While not entirely accurate by any means due to the nature of the gear, they did manage to stay within +/-1dB of each other from what I saw. Maybe I got a good pair?


Hey

 

Well anyone could tell the difference if they listen to them side by side, for some it could be a majour issue of not having both the drivers on the W4 balanced perfectly, but unfortunately it exists, it will be more prominent to you as how much you use it, and how long you use them for, until you notice a difference, I have tried my other friend's W4, and I still can say that one driver is indeed stronger than the other, That is why the W4R has been introduced to overcome this issue, I can confirm that it is nuetral as it can be on the W4R, and is balanced perfectly, the exact Acoustic Symmetry Westone is talking about, Hence the guy from the video states that Westone checks each driver of the W4R so they match the drivers perfectly.

post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by stationwagon View Post


Hey

 

Well anyone could tell the difference if they listen to them side by side, for some it could be a majour issue of not having both the drivers on the W4 balanced perfectly, but unfortunately it exists, it will be more prominent to you as how much you use it, and how long you use them for, until you notice a difference, I have tried my other friend's W4, and I still can say that one driver is indeed stronger than the other, That is why the W4R has been introduced to overcome this issue, I can confirm that it is nuetral as it can be on the W4R, and is balanced perfectly, the exact Acoustic Symmetry Westone is talking about, Hence the guy from the video states that Westone checks each driver of the W4R so they match the drivers perfectly.

I don't doubt what you hear, as channel imbalance is generally quite easy to discern. Curious as to whether or not the experience would be similar across multiple pairs. What's even more curious, as stated by kookoo before, is why none of this has trickled down to the regular W4s and other models down Westone's ladder. 

 

Has anyone found any measurements confirming this yet. I've seen Goldenear's, but haven't the knowledge to make sense of it.

post #18 of 22
Anybody else hear a channel imbalance in the Westone 4? I'm going to buy one of them, either the 4 or 4R.
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by RickH9 View Post

Anybody else hear a channel imbalance in the Westone 4? I'm going to buy one of them, either the 4 or 4R.

 

I didn't have it on my first pair, but if the chance of it happening bothers you, just get the 4R. That's what I did.

post #20 of 22
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The imbalance thing is on off thing you either hear it or you don't and can be dominant in some music you listen to. Its better off getting the 4r
post #21 of 22
Maybe I'm crazy but I felt like there was an acoustic difference between the 4 and 4R, and not channel balance. Incidentally I liked the 4 better than the 4R. I was using the same source and tips. Could this have been a fluke in in if the sets? I'd like to think it wasn't just me so I'm wondering if anyone has felt they heard a difference in sound sig.

Anyone?
post #22 of 22

It could be both side drivers impedance are not matching pair thus causing the imbalance.

 

In Audiophile, it happened time to time if the speaker manufacturer are not careful with driver's impedance measurement.

 

That mean matching impedance pair of drivers built into left and right earphone can be done without the need of "Acoustic Symmetry" which might just be another commercial gimmick to attract more customer.

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