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post #571 of 1093

So I clocked about ten hours on the KAEDE crossing the Pacific. It isolates better than I expected. As the Complys expanded in my ears, engine noise melted away. Still I think that these are at their absolute best in moderate to quiet environments. There is so much detail and nuance being resolved.

 

I have lots of thoughts but no time to post now. More to follow in the coming days. I just want to update this: I am addicted to this IEM. Blues and Progressive Rock in particular are astounding. And... call it burn in, brain burn or just... Surrender! I have stopped equalizing the treble. It is bright yet the KAEDE deserves to have its sound signature taken as it is. It is different than any other IEM that I listen to. I like it. Well I can't stop listening. I really like it.

 

(shigzeo, you are right. The lower frequency detail, the naunce and depth in the bass, is something special. This is the first IEM I have heard that can really express Pino Palladino's bass in the John Mayer Trio's Try live album. With every other IEM it sounds bloated. On the KAEDE, you can hear his technique and the bass sound is just... meaty. It is fabulous.)

 

More to follow.

post #572 of 1093
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While 'my' KAEDE is gone, I do have the TG334. Indeed, very different. One is out of the head in a speaker sense, the other is out of the head in a placement/3D sense. The latter is TG334, the former KAEDE. To be honest, if all I ever did was listen to music at home, I'd probably opt for the KAEDE (assuming I had the dosh for it). I prefer that sound presentation, but love both designs. I find the TG334 infinitely easier to use though am not too keen on the memory cable. 

 

But for a much more natural presentation, KAEDE is the ticket. For a more mastered (as in mixed, mastered, recorded, engineered) sound sound, TG334 is it. I don't think TG334 has slow decay in bass; rather, it doesn't uncover the dry timbre in bass as well as does KAEDE.

 

EDIT: I realise after typing it that the final sentence above could be read as a pun. I encourage you to do that. Seriously.

 

I'll actually be using my Kaede when I'm out and about as well. Pretty much they'll be in my ears or in a portable case. I actually like their open design as it doesn't give much of any isolation at all and that is ideal for me honestly. Now if I was to be sitting on a plane or some sort where isolation is paramount I'd use the 8As. I agree thought the 334s are really good in terms of fit and isolation and those who desire both on the go. I still do feel the 334s bass was rather slow and it sounded quite odd to me. A very unique sound indeed. Never heard bass like that before. Just not my cup of tea ;).

post #573 of 1093
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Are you talking about me here ;-)??!!

Haha all in good spirit. :) 

 

Just was curious.

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I'll actually be using my Kaede when I'm out and about as well. Pretty much they'll be in my ears or in a portable case. I actually like their open design as it doesn't give much of any isolation at all and that is ideal for me honestly. Now if I was to be sitting on a plane or some sort where isolation is paramount I'd use the 8As. I agree thought the 334s are really good in terms of fit and isolation and those who desire both on the go. I still do feel the 334s bass was rather slow and it sounded quite odd to me. A very unique sound indeed. Never heard bass like that before. Just not my cup of tea ;).

You are brave to use the Kaede in the wild. I would be afraid of tearing the cable on something.

post #574 of 1093

Somehow this earphone reminds me of this :

 

Lavc53.5.0

post #575 of 1093
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Haha all in good spirit. :) 

 

Just was curious.

You are brave to use the Kaede in the wild. I would be afraid of tearing the cable on something.

 

Well I did use the Sui when out and about. Not like I'm exercising with them :P. I also wear them over ear so they fit snugly in my ears and well supported. I'm also gonna buy a three year extended warranty for them.


Edited by lee730 - 6/28/13 at 3:32am
post #576 of 1093

The Musica Acoustics shipments should start arriving soon. I want to hear some more impressions.

post #577 of 1093

Mine was shipped out a couple days ago. It's already left Tokyo so it's on its way :). Can't wait!


Edited by lee730 - 6/28/13 at 3:32am
post #578 of 1093
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Mine was shipped out a couple days ago. It's already left Tokyo so it's on its way smily_headphones1.gif. Can't wait!

Congrats.....
post #579 of 1093

Thanks. Just curious to see how much of an improvement it is over the Sui. There are some varying opinions on the matter. But I also do trust Shigzeos opinion :).

post #580 of 1093
Thank you for all the great inputs.
One last question, which one is more fatiguing?
Reading cooperpwc's 10 hours journey, i assume that Kaede is not fatiguing and not as 'sharp' as many thought on the treble side.

How's the fatigue factor in FTG 334 for those who own both? I read somewhere that 334 can be fatiguing for 2 hours+ extensive listening.
post #581 of 1093
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Thank you for all the great inputs.
One last question, which one is more fatiguing?
Reading cooperpwc's 10 hours journey, i assume that Kaede is not fatiguing and not as 'sharp' as many thought on the treble side.

How's the fatigue factor in FTG 334 for those who own both? I read somewhere that 334 can be fatiguing for 2 hours+ extensive listening.

 

I'm pretty sure the Kaede would be more fatiguing than the 334. But the 334 also does have treble spikes so it can go both ways. But with the 334s extra bass warming up the sound it should help in making it less fatiguing overall IMO. Also keep in mind the 334s sound is very much upfront in its own right (very intimate) and in that the presentation can become fatiguing in itself. Funny how many aspects of sound can impact the experience :P.


Edited by lee730 - 6/28/13 at 4:22am
post #582 of 1093
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Originally Posted by lescanadiens View Post

Thank you for all the great inputs.
One last question, which one is more fatiguing?
Reading cooperpwc's 10 hours journey, i assume that Kaede is not fatiguing and not as 'sharp' as many thought on the treble side.

How's the fatigue factor in FTG 334 for those who own both? I read somewhere that 334 can be fatiguing for 2 hours+ extensive listening.

 

Full disclosure: I was still equalizing greatly on the flights. By the end of my trip though I was just reducing treble at the very highest, barely audible (to me) frequencies. Back in Toronto, I suddenly decided that I might as well go full hog and turn even the highest frequency EQ off. I have not looked back. 

 

No doubt there are some albums where it can be fatiguing. For example, A long Time Coming by Electric Flag, the classic 1968 psychedelic blues album, has an already thin sound with some wickedly sharp cymbals. A few songs on that are hard work on the KAEDE. Generally the KAEDE will be more fatiguing than headphones with less treble (for example, my ES5 and Heaven VI, and indeed the TG334) but that is axiomatic.

 

The TG334 and KAEDE are very different IEMs.

post #583 of 1093

Okay, these things are crazy, crazy, goosebumps good. They can be a tad bright, but paired with my TP & Quickstep, thoroughly fantastic. The soundstage and separation are nearly holographic. I have not ever quite 'seen' the different toms from a drum kit beaten in succession right in front of my 'eyes' with that wrap-around effect like I have today. Wow! Back to listening.

post #584 of 1093

EMS is really fast.

post #585 of 1093
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EMS is really fast.

 

Your 'rig' looks fantastic. 

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