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post #181 of 1092
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Originally Posted by VisceriousZERO View Post

 

For me, the 334s (and FitEar in general) have the best vocals in IEMs, hands down... The KAEDE is crazy detailed but very lush but I get annoyed by some of the treble spikes :)

 

let me loan your flat-4 then ;)

post #182 of 1092
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

 

Are you, by any chance, a lawyer? wink.gif


Worse, a consultant ;)

post #183 of 1092
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Originally Posted by devgru View Post

They look fragile and no strain relief. I want to take the plunge but they look so damn flimsy.
 


They are very comfortable and light. But the cables is not replaceable and not as sturdy as cables of comparably prices iems.

post #184 of 1092
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

Haven't heard the KAEDE, but both the Flat-4 SUI and the Sennheiser IE800 sacrifice a bit of treble note weight in favor of speed and detail resolution. As a result, note weight is remarkably off between bass and treble, with mighty bass drums and almost chopstick-thin cymbals (even more pronounced on the SUI than the IE800, to these ears).

 

In fact that's probably the main reason why I wouldn't call the Flat-4 overly transparent, but on the other hand it helps to create a very special kind of presentation that's powerful, dynamic, hyper-detailed and almost fragile at the same time.


Hi James

 

Wondering if you still have the JVC FX700 to compare with Flat-4 SUI.

post #185 of 1092
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They are very comfortable and light. But the cables is not replaceable and not as sturdy as cables of comparably prices iems.

The cable is surrounded by a tough rubber grommet and anchored inside with a knot. Some earphones don't even knot, but use metal pinchers that can come loose. Strain reliefs are very good for: protecting a cable against abrasive earphone bodies, but if the cable is properly anchored and made of good stuff (which the Kaede appears to be), the earphone cable will last a long time - possibly longer than that of a stress-relieved cable. I've used a number of 'properly stress relieved' cables that split or broke after a few wiggles. These were often earphones in the 55$-100$ price range. Looks are deceiving.

post #186 of 1092
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Originally Posted by shigzeo View Post

The cable is surrounded by a tough rubber grommet and anchored inside with a knot. Some earphones don't even knot, but use metal pinchers that can come loose. Strain reliefs are very good for: protecting a cable against abrasive earphone bodies, but if the cable is properly anchored and made of good stuff (which the Kaede appears to be), the earphone cable will last a long time - possibly longer than that of a stress-relieved cable. I've used a number of 'properly stress relieved' cables that split or broke after a few wiggles. These were often earphones in the 55$-100$ price range. Looks are deceiving.


I bought a square trade warranty just in case :). Plus if I do upgrade to the Kaede I can always sell the SUI more easily with a 3 year warranty backing it ;).

post #187 of 1092

There is nothing wrong with that at all. I hope you enjoy your earphones for a long time.

post #188 of 1092
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Originally Posted by klipschman70 View Post

Hi James

 

Wondering if you still have the JVC FX700 to compare with Flat-4 SUI.

 

I'll try to look into this on the weekend. From memory the FX700 have more midbass and probably less mids presence, but it's been a while since I've heard them.

post #189 of 1092
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I'll try to look into this on the weekend. From memory the FX700 have more midbass and probably less mids presence, but it's been a while since I've heard them.

The man has everything!

post #190 of 1092

And the order is made...should get them soon (I already have them as a loaner right now though :)

post #191 of 1092
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

And the order is made...should get them soon (I already have them as a loaner right now though :)

 

Congratulations!!!

post #192 of 1092
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Originally Posted by spkrs01 View Post

 

Congratulations!!!


Thanks...only 200 and sounding so good. How could I not ?

post #193 of 1092
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post


Thanks...only 200 and sounding so good. How could I not ?


200 hours? Or 200 (currency?).

post #194 of 1092
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post


200 hours? Or 200 (currency?).


Certainly not 200$. I got them for Musica at 985...it was only 865 for China at Price Japan, but at Musica you then get a 10% discount on next purchase, so more or less the same, and the service at Musica is better and they have it in stock.

 

The 200 was refering to the fact that they will only make 200 Kaede in total...so I had to have it !

post #195 of 1092
You guys are killing me. I know I'm going to miss the buy window.
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