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post #1066 of 1092
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Originally Posted by elnero View Post
 

 

You might try the Comply Ts series tips as opposed to the standard T series. I've found the Ts series to generally have a better top to bottom balance than the standard T series. I mentioned that I use the Ts series tips in the Tralucent thread but didn't emphasize the difference between the standard T and the Ts series.

 

Hi, thank you for your suggestion. 

 

I also saw your comment in the Tralucent thread as well.  I will look into the Comply Ts series.

 

Regards,

David.

post #1067 of 1092
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Originally Posted by wonjun View Post

 

 

OBSERVATIONS:

(1) When comparing these three IEM's, the Fitear 334 immediately presented itself as dark and muddy and established itself as my least liked of the three.  It very quickly became a race between the Kaede and the Tralucent 1+2.

(2) The Tralucent 1+2 is a very impressive IEM, in that it is very revealing, airy & open, and endowed with great dynamics and bass.  However, there is a brightness and harshness to the sound that I could never completely shake.  I've read that the Uber cable eliminates this, but I find it hard to accept that a $1300 IEM needs a $1100 cable to consumate its potential...

(3) The Kaede is the perfect middle ground, as in just right!  After a steady diet of Tralucent, Kaede is a model of balance.  Great bass, musical mids, VERY well judged treble (I think maple shell plays a role here), an open headstage.  In my system, I do NOT notice the harshness and treble emphasis that people have discussed.

 

(4)However, removing the hardness (completely from Kaede and mostly from Tralucent) required that I use a DIRECT connection between the Pico DAC/AMP and the PC using a USB adapter.  The insertion of any USB cable, even a superb one like the Mapleshade Clearlink Plus USB (compared to $500+ cables) added a bit of bleached whiteness and silibance. 

 

(5)Kaede responded very well to tip changes.  I immediately found the stock Comply tips to mute the treble and disliked it.  The large Ortofon tips were SO MUCH BETTER that it's essential.  I have also recently found that Monster Super Tip (Large Foam) is superb as well, improving upon the bass of the Ortofon (which seems a bit lossy in the bass) yet retaining the treble openness.

 


Wow I found the Kaede to be noticeably more fatiguing than the Tralucent on the gold cable... Could not shake that issue. Stuck with the Sui and found it much more to my liking. Definitely smoother sounding to my ears.

post #1068 of 1092

Yes, I may be the minority here for not noticing the harshness of Kaede.

 

Hopefully with a new DAC (JK Ciunas) and amp (Kojo KM-01), I will have a better luck with the Tralucent.

post #1069 of 1092

An up for an incredible IEM and probably the most under-rated high-end one, although not anymore in the market. 

 

Re-purchased ironically my own pair and couldn't be happier :)

post #1070 of 1092
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Originally Posted by PCWar View Post
 

An up for an incredible IEM and probably the most under-rated high-end one, although not anymore in the market. 

 

Re-purchased ironically my own pair and couldn't be happier :)

 

I find this quite amusing.  :-)

 

I never sold mine but tonight I am rediscover them. Truly a fine headphone. One thing for sure, they require a very clean source, more so than most IEMs.

post #1071 of 1092
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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post
 

 

I find this quite amusing.  :-)

 

I never sold mine but tonight I am rediscover them. Truly a fine headphone. One thing for sure, they require a very clean source, more so than most IEMs.

Have you tried the Donguri? I'm using Donguri more than my Dita.

With my new vorzuge pure 2, the kaede really shines.

post #1072 of 1092

^ I have not heard the Donguri.

post #1073 of 1092

I've red comments that Donguri is on the dark side of the sound. Don't know if true. 

post #1074 of 1092
Nope it is not dark. It has a very sweet mid range unlike Kaede. Compared to Kaede, less resolution, forward mids and vocals are more intimate.
post #1075 of 1092

shsh, I noticed that you have the Dita also. How does the bass of the Dita compare to the Kaedes, quantity and quality wise?

post #1076 of 1092
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Originally Posted by PCWar View Post
 

shsh, I noticed that you have the Dita also. How does the bass of the Dita compare to the Kaedes, quantity and quality wise?

 

:popcorn:

post #1077 of 1092
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Originally Posted by PCWar View Post
 

shsh, I noticed that you have the Dita also. How does the bass of the Dita compare to the Kaedes, quantity and quality wise?

Quality wise, it is nearly the same.

Quantity, Dita has a little more.

 

The sound signature of Dita is very full and sometimes it covers the bass.

I prefer Kaede more.

post #1078 of 1092

That's a lot to say. With all the hype Dita the Truth is getting I was expecting it to be an upgrade over the Kaedes. Really helpful feedback from you. My wallet thanks you :)


Edited by PCWar - 6/17/14 at 7:28am
post #1079 of 1092
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Originally Posted by PCWar View Post
 

That's a lot to say. With all the hype Dita the Truth is getting I was expecting it to be an upgrade over the Kaedes. Really helpful feedback from you. My wallet thanks you :)

No problem. Well kaede is also a top IEM. Dita did wow me at first. But when it settles down, I feel sort of "boring". I'm using my Ocharaku Donguri most now. All 3 of them are very good earphones but have different signatures, but I prefer Donguri's sound sig because of the forward and sweet mids.


Edited by shsh - 6/17/14 at 7:54am
post #1080 of 1092
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Originally Posted by shsh View Post
 

No problem. Well kaede is also a top IEM. Dita did wow me at first. But when it settles down, I feel sort of "boring". I'm using my Ocharaku Donguri most now. All 3 of them are very good earphones but have different signatures, but I prefer Donguri's sound sig because of the forward and sweet mids.

Saw in your profile that you have the Donguri, Dita, Kaede and Heaven VI, that's quite a collection!

I prefer sweet forward mids, deep bass and non-peaky treble. Which one would you recommend out of those 4 IEMs please?

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