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post #961 of 1885
Thanks guys!
post #962 of 1885
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post

 

Hmmm, still evaluating the Northern Fidelity unit. So far it seems like a smooth, "analog" sounding DAC, though definitely not dark at all. May be on the same level as Concero but I'm not sure yet. 

 

Interesting, keep us posted on what you find!

post #963 of 1885
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

I had both, and if you look back the first few ten pages, you'll see I largely prefer the Octave (Mk1) to the Concero. I think Clemmaster liked his Metrum Quad better than the Concero too, but then his taste makes it not exactly a fair fight for the Concero.

 

For 1500 try to find a Nad M51 used/ex-demo; there's also the Hilo on special offer for ~1850 I think.

 

Yep.

If I was to compare it to the Metrum Quad, I would rank it like this:

1- Stello U3 + Metrum Quad

2- Concero + Metrum Quad (better technicalities than above, but the voicing was less to my liking, too bright)

3- Concero standalone

...

10- Metrum Quad standalone (Squeezebox touch's coax) - you get my point, the Quad needs a good transport ti shine.

 

For $600, the concero is a very good DAC. I happened to pay closer to $800 because of import taxes & duties in France, which makes it a good DAC still (for the price) but it has competition.

The Stello U3 + Quad was ~ $1100 and the Octave mkII should be an even better value.

 

I just received my Cinuas DAC. This one should be a serious competitor.

post #964 of 1885

Also the new Meridian Audio Director seems to be going straight for the Concero.

 

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/536-meridian-audio-director-usb-dac-review/

post #965 of 1885
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

Has anybody been able to directly compare the Concerto with the Parasound Zdac. Just curious, I am kind of leaning toward the Zdac, mostly due to the built in headphone amp, but there are still a couple other dacs I have been looking at too.

I have reviewed the original Concero and Zdac on my blog, see signature for url.  

post #966 of 1885
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Originally Posted by kcee View Post

Also the new Meridian Audio Director seems to be going straight for the Concero.

 

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/536-meridian-audio-director-usb-dac-review/

 

Yes, interesting. It has an Crystal CS4353 DAC inside. For what I've found, the Crystal CS4353 has a maximum sample resolution of 192KHz at 24bit. The just release ESS Sabre ES90182M inside both Concero HD and HP has 384KHz at 32bit.

 

I think the ESS Sabre is the DAC to beat these days.

post #967 of 1885
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Originally Posted by Xelor View Post

 

Yes, interesting. It has an Crystal CS4353 DAC inside. For what I've found, the Crystal CS4353 has a maximum sample resolution of 192KHz at 24bit. The just release ESS Sabre ES90182M inside both Concero HD and HP has 384KHz at 32bit.

 

I think the ESS Sabre is the DAC to beat these days.


True, guts aside though its a small dac in the same price range with some similar features.

I know some people were fond of the explorer, I for one wasn't.

post #968 of 1885

It would be nice if Resonessence made a baby Invicta for around $1500. That would give me a clear upgrade path from the Concero. I would love to stay within the Resonessence family if I can, but the price jump from the Concero to the Invicta is just basshead.gif

post #969 of 1885
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

It would be nice if Resonessence made a baby Invicta for around $1500. That would give me a clear upgrade path from the Concero. I would love to stay within the Resonessence family if I can, but the price jump from the Concero to the Invicta is just basshead.gif

Would face heavy competition from many competent sub 2k dac. It might even cut into the Concero sales =p.

 

Balance cost a ton, so is good digital implementation; if you chop down quality parts and put it in a ordinary chassis, it may sound not much better than a Concero, while still far away from an Invicta/Mirus.

post #970 of 1885

As a pure Digital to Digital converter - does the HD offer an improvement over the original? 

post #971 of 1885
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Originally Posted by M3NTAL View Post

As a pure Digital to Digital converter - does the HD offer an improvement over the original? 

I'm not sure the new HD and HP has changed something in the asynchronous USB, I can't find any information about that so I doubt there would be any difference in the digital interface between old and newer model quality wise.

The main difference as bridge should be that the HD passthrough the DSD64 (not 128) over SPDIF, the old one does not. DSD128 will not pass because of the SPIDF interface limit.

More info here: http://resonessencelabs.com/concero/
Edited by Xelor - 8/7/13 at 2:03am
post #972 of 1885
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Originally Posted by Greggo View Post

Yeah...that is a big part of it for me actually.  I put together a very basic speaker crossover a few years ago and really enjoyed it.  Have since been tempted to build an amp but the few that have tempted me look like a little more than I am ready for, but then I started reading about the Crack, just getting it going in basic form, then adding speedball, then adding tweaks and doing some tube rolling.  It really looks like one of the best starter projects in all of DIY hifi that I have come across at least, and I spend lots of time surfing around on the net.

 

Anyways, looking forward to more feedback on the Concero HP, especially in regards to what headphones seem to work best and how it would compare to other well known amps.  I will admit, the feedback regarding the Concero HP and the HD800 from Xelor seems fairly compelling.  Now we shall see if more evidence emerges from the community.  I know it is best to hear for yourself, but it is also fun to look for reviews that hit your gut as being relevant for you and then look for patterns and numbers until you think it is worth making a purchase, so long as you can return or re-sell without taking too much of a hit : ) 


If you can find one in good condition at a reasonable price, definitely consider Concero/Gilmore Lite as an alternative to Concero/Crack.

post #973 of 1885

In regards to the Concero HP, I was under the impression(cant remember source) that high impedance headphones are not driven well under 5V USB, you sure the HD800 sounds alright?

post #974 of 1885
Yes, it drive it very well, not a power monster but very good sound.
post #975 of 1885
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Yes, it drive it very well, not a power monster but very good sound.

 

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