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post #871 of 1703
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Originally Posted by kcee View Post

I am not going to get into a whole lot of details, I find it difficult to write about perceived differences between 2 audio products. I tip my hat to anyone who can do it well.

I also have alot of respect for Resonessence and what they are doing with the Concero line and all of their products. I can't say one bad thing about their products or service. Both exceptional.

 

Some things to keep in mind my budget is a huge factor, I am trying to setup the best sounding (to me) budget minded desktop setup. A few years ago I got silly and comfortable and had a huge desktop setup that was reaching past 10k when I was let go from a job that I had planned at being at for a long time. It was almost getting to the point were the gear itself was more important then the actual music itself.

 

Anyways, onto my listening habits and my decision and impressions, but I felt the need to mention that cost is a huge factor for me now.

 

I almost always listen to 320kbs MP3 files, I don't have much in the way of hi-res audio files. Some day, some day I know.

I tend to flip back and forth between audio players, I listen on a macbook pro as well as a desktop windows pc setup.

 

When looking for a budget friendly dac, I had a few requirements. It had to be small, it couldn't be ugly and it had to perform to a level at least justifying the price if not exceeding it. It also had to handle the material I tend to use most, and handle it well. Not to get too deep into the initial rundown I did but I found about 4 or 5 Dacs under about a grand that I could spend a little time with and actually listen to. To make a potentially long story short the Original Concero ended up winning out. It looked great, I loved the lower output it made everything sound effortless. It was not forcing the music down my ears. The way they clean up the usb signal is amazing, I tried a vaunix usb hub and it did nothing beneficial. I also loved the implementation of the filters used with 44 and 48, and how it would 4x upsample the material. It pretty easily beat the Aneido D2 with my 320 mp3's. Maybe it wouldn't using higher res material who knows that's for another review.

 

I ended up selling the Original concero when I heard about the new models. My friend still had an original Concero and I ended up buying a new Concero HD. With the thought in mind of comparing the two of them in my room. If the HD was better I would keep it, if not I would send it back and get the original Concero which I already loved. It honestly did not take long for me to realize that the Original Concero is something special. Back to back using my files and listening with my speakers and my headphones I felt like the original Concero was more of a value than the HD was. That is the case for me, not necessarily for anyone else. I am sure if someone was interested in DSD capabilities and has a ton of hi-res flac and wav files the newer HD model might put the Original Concero to shame, who knows.

 

I ended up sending back the HD in favor of the Original Concero. What I am mainly wanting to say with this is the Original Concero is a tremendous value, and in my findings meets and on occasion surpasses DAC's twice its price. I am happy that I am back to enjoying the music more than the gear and the Concero was a big part in getting me back there. Props to Mark and the Resonessence team for keeping the little guy's like me in mind when thinking of new gear and also making such fine products at a realistic price we can afford.

Thanks for sharing this.  More data that the Concero is not only a great value, but simply a great DAC.  It really does seem like I will have to spend $1500+ to clearly surpass the Concero, though likely more since it might take a better amp to benefit from the improvements.

post #872 of 1703

Great write up Kcee. Enjoyed reading it very much. I love my Concero too and feel just like you do in many respects. beerchug.gif

post #873 of 1703
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

Great write up Kcee. Enjoyed reading it very much. I love my Concero too and feel just like you do in many respects. beerchug.gif

 

Thank you ! Cheers to you as well beerchug.gif

 

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Originally Posted by FraGGleR View Post

Thanks for sharing this.  More data that the Concero is not only a great value, but simply a great DAC.  It really does seem like I will have to spend $1500+ to clearly surpass the Concero, though likely more since it might take a better amp to benefit from the improvements.

 

 

Absolutely, an excellent performer and a value.

post #874 of 1703
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

Seems Resonessence Labs just put up a mock up pic of the Herus (on their Twitter), a portable DSD128/DXD capable (hopefully native!) that fits in your hand? This probably warrants a thread on its own but curious if anyone has had more information about it. Edit: Got a partial answer an hour later. the Herus does native DSD.

 

what is the Herus?

a dac? or dac/amp like the dragonfly?

 

i'd be interested if it manages to be around $400 to compete vs the others like the meridian and hrt...

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post #876 of 1703
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Originally Posted by kcee View Post

http://www.audiostream.com/content/resonessence-labs-herus


Like the dragonfly.
The difference from the Dragonfly though is it takes a USB type B input on the other side of the photo. i.e. you still need a USB type-A to type-B cable.

From their tweet :
@resonessence: @music2go it is a USB-B connector. It does NOT plug directly into a laptop. You need the USB cable. 1 benefit is distance from noisy laptop
post #877 of 1703

Not sure if it was reading Kcee's review but the Concero is really singing tonight. Just amazing... everything I could possibly want in a DAC. I have almost zero urge to upgrade. I had no idea I would hit a ceiling this fast. I keep going back to Filter 2, again and again. I tried my best to give Filter 1 the benefit, but can't seem to keep up with Filter 2 for me. Just magical the Concero is. And I just love the Apodizing Filter. L3000.gif

 

*bit perfect mode is just yuck for me. Not even close to the two filters.


Edited by M-13 - 7/24/13 at 11:35pm
post #878 of 1703

It's a bit of a long shot.. but has anyone heard the original Concero as well as an Uber-Bifrost?  If so, I'd love a comparison on SQ (I'm not particular about what digital input was used on the UB).  These two DACs seem to be the 'it' DACs around the $500-$600 mark, at the moment (and probably rightfully so.. both come from companies with an excellent technical pedigree).

post #879 of 1703

You guys are killing me.  UPS has had my replacement Concero floating around -the progression is something like BC Canada to Ontario CA to Louisville KY, and back to BC Canada all within hours of eachother in one day.  Now it's showing still in BC and plane difficulties so it's delayed another day.  Something's got to be wrong with the tracking I think.  Sad part is Ontario CA is less than an hour flight from AZ and of course I won't be around tomorrow to receive.

post #880 of 1703
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Originally Posted by Mr.Sneis View Post

You guys are killing me.  UPS has had my replacement Concero floating around -the progression is something like BC Canada to Ontario CA to Louisville KY, and back to BC Canada all within hours of eachother in one day.  Now it's showing still in BC and plane difficulties so it's delayed another day.  Something's got to be wrong with the tracking I think.  Sad part is Ontario CA is less than an hour flight from AZ and of course I won't be around tomorrow to receive.


I think it's something weird and may not actually be the case. The going from Louisville back to Canada thing at least. It did that for me too, and then updated again within a few hours saying they were in Seattle and on the truck for delivery. I think its just some weird clearing process for international packages coming from ups. I bet you'll have it very soon.

post #881 of 1703
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Originally Posted by Mr.Sneis View Post

You guys are killing me.  UPS has had my replacement Concero floating around -the progression is something like BC Canada to Ontario CA to Louisville KY, and back to BC Canada all within hours of eachother in one day.  Now it's showing still in BC and plane difficulties so it's delayed another day.  Something's got to be wrong with the tracking I think.  Sad part is Ontario CA is less than an hour flight from AZ and of course I won't be around tomorrow to receive.

This exact same thing happened to me. My Concero was stuck in customs for 4 days while my expected delivery date was constantly changed. Then it was suddenly in Seattle and I was happy/excited and then suddenly it was California and I was like WTF??!!! and then it was back in Seattle and I was confused/yet still happy again, and then it was in Kentucky and I was like WTF??!!! again, all this happening within a matter of a few hours and the expected delivery date was shifiting constantly, like from Friday to Monday to Tuesday back to Friday to Thursday. It was a nightmare.

 

My suggestion? Just stop tracking that damn thing. It'll get to your door by the expected date given initially.biggrin.gif

post #882 of 1703

Thanks guys, I think it has to do with the whole coming from Canada thing, domestic packages that I have watched like a hawk do not seem to go through so many of these inconsistent hoops.

post #883 of 1703
Hooked up my new Concero yesterday :D I waited a day longer so i could use it with a Audioquest Forest cable, which was in the mail. Loving it!
post #884 of 1703
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Originally Posted by Townyj View Post

Hooked up my new Concero yesterday :D I waited a day longer so i could use it with a Audioquest Forest cable, which was in the mail. Loving it!

Hey same USB cable as me. I totally love the Forest. Such a good value.biggrin.gif

post #885 of 1703
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

Hey same USB cable as me. I totally love the Forest. Such a good value.biggrin.gif

 

Yes its a pretty killer cable for the price, i have one with the mini end aswell. Previously used it with my Microstreamer :) I couldnt justify paying $100+ on a usb cable, especially after coming across a few posts on other forums. Buyers regret and all that jazz.
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