Is the Concero HP also just powered by USB?
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Resonessence Labs Concero discussion/review thead - Page 41post #601 of 22655/18/13 at 6:11pm
Gear mentioned in this thread:post #602 of 22655/18/13 at 7:03pmQuote:Originally Posted by planx
Well good news,
I should be receiving the Concero with the latest software update as soon as Tuesday. If anyone is curious about this update, here ya go http://resonessencelabs.com/software-updates-for-concero/
On another note, I will give the Concero a good week or two with the X-Sabre to compare on both my computer and my Marantz CD5003 via Coax.
Cheers allpost #603 of 22655/19/13 at 12:15am
Upon further listening... it has made a huge difference. Definitely not subtle at all. Wow... can't believe my laptop was holding the Concero back this much. It's almost like I have a different DAC.
Thanks again.post #604 of 22655/19/13 at 12:23amQuote:
I find the difference using Fidelizer to be relatively small actually (noticable, pleasant but not the final word)... You should definitely go for something more advanced, like Jplay (alone as Jplay Mini, or integrated into Jriver/Foobar).
I don't want to sound like a Jplay fanboy... The problem with Xxhighend is that it is practically useless (extreme hardware demands, absolutely horrible and confusing GUI, problematic setup, absolutely lacks versatility). And what I find unique about Jplay is that you can actually integrate it into your favourite player, apply DSP (like replaygain or VST plugins) and use two computers to benefit from hibernation (of your dedicated audio PC) but still be aware of what track is being played and have full control of your second PC.
I haven't purchased the software until the version 5.0 was released (this version basically introduced what is written above)... This player is incredibly versatile now.
Edited by RustA - 5/19/13 at 12:37ampost #605 of 22655/19/13 at 6:37amThread Starter
Help out a relatively illiterate user - which of those players still supports "regular" background processes? I know someone who uses a small dedicated HTPC as a music server, headless (no monitor), using Splashtop with iPad control. He has been using JRiver but I might suggest he try some of this stuff.... but only if it allows his Splashtop remote to work.post #606 of 22655/19/13 at 6:57amQuote:Originally Posted by project86
Help out a relatively illiterate user - which of those players still supports "regular" background processes? I know someone who uses a small dedicated HTPC as a music server, headless (no monitor), using Splashtop with iPad control. He has been using JRiver but I might suggest he try some of this stuff.... but only if it allows his Splashtop remote to work.
Fidelizer is free and customisable - it has different levels of "system optimalisation". Therefore this one should work well...
Jplay should work great as well if integrated in Jriver... As I said, Jplay just becomes a "playback engine" that way and you use Jriver for everything else. There is an article on Jplay available: http://www.audiostream.com/content/road-jplay
I have no clue about Xxhighend...
IMHO, Jplay is significantly more effective and offer different playback engines to get the absolute best from your hardware, or to possibly tune the sound signature a bit (there is no DSP involved, each engine just use RAM and CPU a bit differently but all remains bitperfect in theory!). Jplay is also far more advanced as described above (single PC vs dual PC mode, hibernation, different playback engines etc. etc.)...
Fidelizer is just a simple utility you enable each time your computer loads Windows. But Jplay is a complex software that you can use in different ways depending on what SQ/comfort ratio you prefer. And again, you can integrate Jplay into Jriver or other player supporting ASIO easily!
Edited by RustA - 5/19/13 at 7:03ampost #607 of 22655/19/13 at 9:02amQuote:
I'm sure results are probably different for each individual PC. As I've stated in another thread, my wireless network adapter runs off of USB so the Concero's traffic priority was probably taking second place to the network adapter. Also, my mouse and keyboard being gaming models, I believe have higher than average USB polling rates and I can even notice a very faint digital noise when moving the mouse with no music playing. So that's more USB traffic it's trying to compete with. Not to mention, the HD800 seems to hyper-magnify any small change.post #608 of 22655/19/13 at 9:20amQuote:
Yes, differences are especially possible to spot due to HD800's neutral treble response (featuring famous 6khz emphasis)... You just clearly hear how much smoother (subjectively), accurate and distortion-free highs are with better hardware and software - including DACs, amplifiers, computers, audio cards, software players and overall system optimalisation (on both hardware and software level).
Edited by RustA - 5/19/13 at 9:22ampost #609 of 22655/20/13 at 7:42ampost #610 of 22655/20/13 at 12:31pmpost #611 of 22655/20/13 at 12:45pmQuote:
This is definitely up to you... Believe me, I own StageDAC with 9 different conversion filters and I can tell you there is no ULTIMATE setting which works universally best.post #612 of 22655/20/13 at 10:48pm
Since they haven't been mentioned here. I thought I'd quote some of the recent Resonessence tweets regarding the Concero firmware upgrade:
"Concero users. Did you notice better SQ even at lower rates with the new firmware. Some Invicta users noticed a diff" https://twitter.com/resonessence/status/336283754626699264
"The firmware update has a better async USB flow control algorithm. LOL forgot to mention that" https://twitter.com/resonessence/status/336284043895271424
"Invicta users got the better algorithm a while back and generally it was deemed to have better SQ" https://twitter.com/resonessence/status/336284310829137920
Good to know since it did seem to sound better to me after the update.
As a side note, I can't seem to find the options for 384kS/S (and 352.8kS/S) in the dropdown list of sound formats in the properties for my Concero? Does anyone have any ideas?post #613 of 22655/21/13 at 12:40ampost #614 of 22655/21/13 at 6:17am
Such a pain, I own all Macs. Ill have to bring the Concero to work and update it on someone elses PC. Ahh reread the group of tweets... Mark is saying a week for the Mac upgrader. Well all right, this may be a company doing it right!
Also when up sampling with the onboard filters am I now upsampling at 384 and not 192 any more?
Edited by mcullinan - 5/21/13 at 6:21ampost #615 of 22655/21/13 at 5:35pm
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