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post #601 of 1861

Is the Concero HP also just powered by USB?

post #602 of 1861
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Originally Posted by planx View Post

Well good news,

 

I should be receiving the Concero with the latest software update as soon as Tuesday. If anyone is curious about this update, here ya go http://resonessencelabs.com/software-updates-for-concero/

 

On another note, I will give the Concero a good week or two with the X-Sabre to compare on both my computer and my Marantz CD5003 via Coax.

 

Cheers all

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post #603 of 1861
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Originally Posted by JWahl View Post
No problem.  Not bad at all, for free beerchug.gif

Upon further listening... it has made a huge difference. Definitely not subtle at all. Wow... can't believe my laptop was holding the Concero back this much. It's almost like I have a different DAC.

 

Thanks again. beerchug.gif

post #604 of 1861
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

Upon further listening... it has made a huge difference. Definitely not subtle at all. Wow... can't believe my laptop was holding the Concero back this much. It's almost like I have a different DAC.

 

Thanks again. beerchug.gif

 

I find the difference using Fidelizer to be relatively small actually (noticable, pleasant but not the final word)... You should definitely go for something more advanced, like Jplay (alone as Jplay Mini, or integrated into Jriver/Foobar).

 

I don't want to sound like a Jplay fanboy... The problem with Xxhighend is that it is practically useless (extreme hardware demands, absolutely horrible and confusing GUI, problematic setup, absolutely lacks versatility). And what I find unique about Jplay is that you can actually integrate it into your favourite player, apply DSP (like replaygain or VST plugins) and use two computers to benefit from hibernation (of your dedicated audio PC) but still be aware of what track is being played and have full control of your second PC.

 

I haven't purchased the software until the version 5.0 was released (this version basically introduced what is written above)... This player is incredibly versatile now.


Edited by RustA - 5/19/13 at 12:37am
post #605 of 1861
Thread Starter 

Help out a relatively illiterate user - which of those players still supports "regular" background processes? I know someone who uses a small dedicated HTPC as a music server, headless (no monitor), using Splashtop with iPad control. He has been using JRiver but I might suggest he try some of this stuff.... but only if it allows his Splashtop remote to work. 

post #606 of 1861
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post

Help out a relatively illiterate user - which of those players still supports "regular" background processes? I know someone who uses a small dedicated HTPC as a music server, headless (no monitor), using Splashtop with iPad control. He has been using JRiver but I might suggest he try some of this stuff.... but only if it allows his Splashtop remote to work. 

 

Fidelizer is free and customisable - it has different levels of "system optimalisation". Therefore this one should work well...

 

Jplay should work great as well if integrated in Jriver... As I said, Jplay just becomes a "playback engine" that way and you use Jriver for everything else. There is an article on Jplay available: http://www.audiostream.com/content/road-jplay

 

I have no clue about Xxhighend...

 

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IMHO, Jplay is significantly more effective and offer different playback engines to get the absolute best from your hardware, or to possibly tune the sound signature a bit (there is no DSP involved, each engine just use RAM and CPU a bit differently but all remains bitperfect in theory!). Jplay is also far more advanced as described above (single PC vs dual PC mode, hibernation, different playback engines etc. etc.)...

 

Fidelizer is just a simple utility you enable each time your computer loads Windows. But Jplay is a complex software that you can use in different ways depending on what SQ/comfort ratio you prefer. And again, you can integrate Jplay into Jriver or other player supporting ASIO easily!


Edited by RustA - 5/19/13 at 7:03am
post #607 of 1861
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

Upon further listening... it has made a huge difference. Definitely not subtle at all. Wow... can't believe my laptop was holding the Concero back this much. It's almost like I have a different DAC.

 

Thanks again. beerchug.gif

I'm sure results are probably different for each individual PC.  As I've stated in another thread, my wireless network adapter runs off of USB so the Concero's traffic priority was probably taking second place to the network adapter.  Also, my mouse and keyboard being gaming models, I believe have higher than average USB polling rates and I can even notice a very faint digital noise when moving the mouse with no music playing.  So that's more USB traffic it's trying to compete with.  Not to mention, the HD800 seems to hyper-magnify any small change.

post #608 of 1861
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Originally Posted by JWahl View Post

Not to mention, the HD800 seems to hyper-magnify any small change.

 

Yes, differences are especially possible to spot due to HD800's neutral treble response (featuring famous 6khz emphasis)... You just clearly hear how much smoother (subjectively), accurate and distortion-free highs are with better hardware and software - including DACs, amplifiers, computers, audio cards, software players and overall system optimalisation (on both hardware and software level).


Edited by RustA - 5/19/13 at 9:22am
post #609 of 1861

What preference settings would be preferable when using Audirvana into the Concero?

 

Should I force the upsampling into the Concero or leave the upsampling to "none"?

post #610 of 1861
Whatever sounds best for you ;-)
post #611 of 1861
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Originally Posted by guido View Post

What preference settings would be preferable when using Audirvana into the Concero?

 

Should I force the upsampling into the Concero or leave the upsampling to "none"?

 

This is definitely up to you... Believe me, I own StageDAC with 9 different conversion filters and I can tell you there is no ULTIMATE setting which works universally best.

post #612 of 1861

Since they haven't been mentioned here. I thought I'd quote some of the recent Resonessence tweets regarding the Concero firmware upgrade:

 

"Concero users. Did you notice better SQ even at lower rates with the new firmware. Some Invicta users noticed a diff" https://twitter.com/resonessence/status/336283754626699264

 

"The firmware update has a better async USB flow control algorithm. LOL forgot to mention that" https://twitter.com/resonessence/status/336284043895271424

 

"Invicta users got the better algorithm a while back and generally it was deemed to have better SQ" https://twitter.com/resonessence/status/336284310829137920

 

Good to know since it did seem to sound better to me after the update.

 

As a side note, I can't seem to find the options for 384kS/S (and 352.8kS/S) in the dropdown list of sound formats in the properties for my Concero? Does anyone have any ideas?

post #613 of 1861

Does the Concero work with the Squeezebox Touch (EDO) with this new firmware?

post #614 of 1861

Such a pain, I own all Macs. Ill have to bring the Concero to work and update it on someone elses PC. Ahh reread the group of tweets... Mark is saying a week for the Mac upgrader. Well all right, this may be a company doing it right!

 

Also when up sampling with the onboard filters am I now upsampling at 384 and not 192 any more?

 

M


Edited by mcullinan - 5/21/13 at 6:21am
post #615 of 1861

Concero just arrived.

 

First impressions out of the box. Already impressive... Need more burn-in and I need food... Will proceed later

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