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post #226 of 645
2/25/13 at 7:34am
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post

It doesn't seem very significant. I suppose if you had some headphone amp that barely reached adequate levels with your favorites headphones, then maybe the Concero would be too quiet as compared to another unit with 2Vrms output. Seems an unlikely scenario though. 

 

 

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I still have a ridiculous amount of gain. I cant get past 11 on the preamp dial. I am running speakers and havent tested headphones though.

 

 

good to know. Thanks so much.  Looks like I'll order one of these for a test drive next week. I'll be running speakers as well.


Edited by crisco - 2/25/13 at 7:35am
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post #227 of 645
3/2/13 at 4:55pm

Has anyone compared this to other Saber 9023 implementations like the ODAC or Wyred4Sound uDAC?  I don't think the ODAC has an output stage, like the Concero, but it puts out the full 2vrms and is supposed to test near the best the 9023 can do.  I am assuming the USB implementation is better for the Concero and that the filters could improve the sound.  I don't need the USB to spdif functionality, so am having a hard time justifying the $500 difference in my mind.  I know implementation is everything, but it just feels weird to pay $600 for something that shares the same core.

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post #228 of 645
3/3/13 at 7:55am
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I've not heard those others but the Peachtree DAC-iT has the ES9022 which seems nearly identical to the ES9023. And although I was mighty impressed with the Peachtree unit, I felt the Concero was clearly the superior DAC overall.

 

So yes, there's some room for differences despite the similarities. But by all means, if the budget is tight, I'm sure the ODAC is a good value for the money. 

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post #229 of 645
3/3/13 at 2:01pm

If I have a defoult PC, without the apple remote. How am I going to switch filters?

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post #230 of 645
3/3/13 at 2:03pm
You need the remote.
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post #231 of 645
3/3/13 at 2:11pm
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Originally Posted by Nick Dangerous View Post

You need the remote.

This is bad, I've already paid it. No chance to solve this problem?

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post #232 of 645
3/3/13 at 2:13pm

LoL Their website just hacked some islomistyconfused.gif

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post #233 of 645
3/3/13 at 2:14pm

You can buy an apple remote

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post #234 of 645
3/3/13 at 2:17pm
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You can buy an apple remote

But i dont have apple PC, you think it's not problem? I have laptop Acer 5750G with Windows 8 frown.gif  Standard filter sounds good? He is the best?


Edited by Uberzone - 3/3/13 at 2:29pm
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post #235 of 645
3/3/13 at 3:05pm
My informal consensus indicates the first filter is the best. I suggest using one. For some reason, default mode sounds a bit uninspired (echoing Srajan's findings in the 6moons review).

You can buy an Apple remote separately. They are not expensive.
Edited by Nick Dangerous - 3/3/13 at 5:04pm
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post #236 of 645
3/3/13 at 4:38pm
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But i dont have apple PC, you think it's not problem? I have laptop Acer 5750G with Windows 8 frown.gif  Standard filter sounds good? He is the best?

The remote interfaces directly with an infrared receiver in the DAC to change filters and therefore it doesn't matter if your using MAC/PC or other transport.

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post #237 of 645
3/3/13 at 4:50pm

I actually like the default filter the best. It just depends on preference.

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post #238 of 645
3/3/13 at 5:55pm
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I actually like the default filter the best. It just depends on preference.

 

 

Weirdo biggrin.gif

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post #239 of 645
3/3/13 at 7:52pm

Thank you guys. I ask Mark about dsd support on concero нere is his answer - Yes, We plan to make an announcement later this month, early next month.

Mark M biggrin.gif I do not believe, do you?


Edited by Uberzone - 3/3/13 at 7:54pm
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post #240 of 645
3/3/13 at 7:55pm
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Thank you guys. I ask Mark about dsd support on concero нere is his answer - Yes, We plan to make an announcement later this month, early next month.

Mark M biggrin.gif I do not believe, do you?

That's strange, I thought the ES9023 wasn't DSD compatible.  Unless maybe they program the firmware to convert DSD to PCM or something like that.

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