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post #1051 of 1711
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Originally Posted by kcee View Post

Seriously cash strapped and reluctantly have to sell my Concero HD : http://www.head-fi.org/t/679669/resonessence-labs-concero-hd-bundle-like-new

Starting a new job, but it's going to take 6 weeks to actually start, need some cash to bridge the gap. Otherwise I wouldn't even consider selling it and I will own one again !

 

Anyone who regularly posts in this thread, and is thinking about upgrading or jumping in...I might consider a bit of a discount. PM me please.

 

Sorry for the advertisement, but I am hoping someone scoops this up pretty quick.

 

 

Someone grab this thing quick - good deal, and a chance to help a good HeadFier in the process. 

post #1052 of 1711
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post

 

 

Someone grab this thing quick - good deal, and a chance to help a good HeadFier in the process. 

 

Thank you p86 ! Its exciting but also scary times !

It will be hard to part with, but it's one of the few things I own that has a good value and is wanted.

Labor Day weekend this may not get much attention but we'll see.

post #1053 of 1711
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Originally Posted by Zashoomin View Post

Ya I am curious how the Bifrost Ubur/Concero/Dac*iTx go up against each other.  It will be interesting.  The Dac iT sounded pretty good if memory serves so the x should sound pretty good considering they are revamping the usb section of it considerably.  


Bump for this three-way comparison please. Also interested. Some comments about the Concero HD vs. W4S DAC 2 DSD would also be nice. Thanks.

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post #1055 of 1711

Looking to purchase one, just subscribing. 

thanks

post #1056 of 1711

My Concero is up for sale...only EU though...

post #1057 of 1711

Can I ask, have any Mac users updated their Concero with the latest firmware? Any thoughts? (Did it go smoothly?)

post #1058 of 1711

I did the first update with a Mac and it went without a hitch.

 

I have a hackintosh, and then I made it dual booting to PC (Windoze 8) for games. So now I can just update it while booted as a PC.

post #1059 of 1711
I emailed Resonessence Labs regarding the headphone jack(TRS Stereo) on the Concero HP, they said you can use TRS to RCA as DAC only, just like Centrance's Dacport LX, cable looks like this
trs to rca

anyone have experience with this cable on the HP?
post #1060 of 1711
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Originally Posted by belisk View Post

I emailed Resonessence Labs regarding the headphone jack(TRS Stereo) on the Concero HP, they said you can use TRS to RCA as DAC only, just like Centrance's Dacport LX, cable looks like this
trs to rca

anyone have experience with this cable on the HP?

 

 

Wow, that's interesting... never occurred to me. But if they say it will work then I'll give it a go. I have a similar cable around here somewhere. 

post #1061 of 1711
You'd be double-amping, though, right? The second amp would expect about 2V rms from the DAC, more or less.
post #1062 of 1711

The HP outputs 3.5 Vrms. It basically means that Resonessence has confidence in their amp stage to deliver a full scale signal comparable to other DACs. It won't have the same SNR, THD+N as outputting from a Concero HD, but it should still provide a very respectable signal, perhaps better than the original Concero (just a guess). From what I've heard out of the HP at even very low (digital volume SNR-limited) volumes, the HP should have plenty of detail and dynamic presentation.

post #1063 of 1711
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post
 

The HP outputs 3.5 Vrms. It basically means that Resonessence has confidence in their amp stage to deliver a full scale signal comparable to other DACs. It won't have the same SNR, THD+N as outputting from a Concero HD, but it should still provide a very respectable signal, perhaps better than the original Concero (just a guess). From what I've heard out of the HP at even very low (digital volume SNR-limited) volumes, the HP should have plenty of detail and dynamic presentation.

 

 

I'd just like to add that the low output impedance (2.2 ohms) also works in favor of the headphone jack as line-out. Now to actually give it a try!

post #1064 of 1711
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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

You'd be double-amping, though, right? The second amp would expect about 2V rms from the DAC, more or less.

Not if you go directly from the HP out into your power amp input (by-passing your preamp).

 

I suggested doing just that back on post #571 (essentially using the HP as a preamp).

 

Let us all know how it sounds.

post #1065 of 1711
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post
 

 

 

Now to actually give it a try!

You've got my attention.  As great as the original Concero and Gilmore Lite are together, they're not very transportable due to the GL's big honkin' power supply.  If the Concero HP'sheadphone amp works as a line-out, then I can shed the original/GL, and also swap out my office system for a pair of active speakers.

 

I wonder if they could do a firmware update where the system would be able to detect what kind of load is being presented to the headphone jack and adjust the output voltage accordingly, the way the Concero and Concero HD sense what is being presented to the USB port and change the function of the coax jack from input to output.


Edited by burnspbesq - 9/7/13 at 10:36am
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