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post #811 of 1160
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Originally Posted by Jung Woo Cho View Post

How does 3rd anv compare to dx50 and x3?

I owned the DX50 for around two weeks. I gave it away to my brother in law and stuck with the Studio 3rd.  I think the Studio 3rd is a better sounding player.

post #812 of 1160
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Originally Posted by Jung Woo Cho View Post

How does 3rd anv compare to dx50 and x3?


I believe I've written a quick summary when I owned both players at the same time. Furthermore since writing that post I have sold my DX50 and never looked back. It's just not strong enough techically, It more or less has the technical ability of an iPod classic with better resolution and detail. Now I understand some people really enjoy their DX50, but I think many of them have never heard a Studio.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/681599/ibasso-dx50-vs-studio-v-3anv#post_9852904
 

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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

 

I own both Studio V (non 3rd anv) and DX50.

They're rather different beasts especially where tonality is concerned, The Studio V leans a touch cooler in tonality exhibiting more aggressive detail extension. it's in your face and kind of thrown at you the way Studio V expresses detail, where as DX50 you'll really be required to pump the amp section (volume) to gain similar (but still below imo) overall detail. Studio is also highly transparent which allows you to almost see through the music and pick out all the layers, some might call it on the thin side of the spectrum. (but very crisp and clean)

Although DX50 is said to be neutral to slightly bright I can still hear a hint of warmth from the DAC beneath the amp section and that's where you'll find an advantage. Where the Studio V to me can sound a touch sterile or raw as I put it you can hear the rhythm and PRaT coming out of the Wolfson DAC on DX50, this makes for a good listening experience, one you can foot tap along with. I can hear good swing to the music and good resolution. On a technical level however I still find Studio V superior, especially in instrument separation and soundstage width and of course the detail we mentioned.

I think DX50 is a good player, has great PRaT and resolution but it's missing something my Studio has, and that's the Hisound house sound, the timbre and technical ability all pushing what makes a " true audiophile DAP" I think DX50 is just sneaking out of mainstream territory. it sounds great to my ears and does enough but when I switch between it's missing that something, that special edge or essence of 'audiophile' the Studio offers where it takes technical areas like transparency and separation to another level. 

post #813 of 1160
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post
 

I own both Studio V (non 3rd anv) and DX50.

They're rather different beasts especially where tonality is concerned, The Studio V leans a touch cooler in tonality exhibiting more aggressive detail extension. it's in your face and kind of thrown at you the way Studio V expresses detail, where as DX50 you'll really be required to pump the amp section (volume) to gain similar (but still below imo) overall detail. Studio is also highly transparent which allows you to almost see through the music and pick out all the layers, some might call it on the thin side of the spectrum. (but very crisp and clean)

Although DX50 is said to be neutral to slightly bright I can still hear a hint of warmth from the DAC beneath the amp section and that's where you'll find an advantage. Where the Studio V to me can sound a touch sterile or raw as I put it you can hear the rhythm and PRaT coming out of the Wolfson DAC on DX50, this makes for a good listening experience, one you can foot tap along with. I can hear good swing to the music and good resolution. On a technical level however I still find Studio V superior, especially in instrument separation and soundstage width and of course the detail we mentioned.

I think DX50 is a good player, has great PRaT and resolution but it's missing something my Studio has, and that's the Hisound house sound, the timbre and technical ability all pushing what makes a " true audiophile DAP" I think DX50 is just sneaking out of mainstream territory. it sounds great to my ears and does enough but when I switch between it's missing that something, that special edge or essence of 'audiophile' the Studio offers where it takes technical areas like transparency and separation to another level.  

 

+1. That is a fair assessment of the players.


Edited by treal512 - 12/15/13 at 10:04am
post #814 of 1160
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post
 


I believe I've written a quick summary when I owned both players at the same time. Furthermore since writing that post I have sold my DX50 and never looked back. It's just not strong enough techically, It more or less has the technical ability of an iPod classic with better resolution and detail. Now I understand some people really enjoy their DX50, but I think many of them have never heard a Studio.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/681599/ibasso-dx50-vs-studio-v-3anv#post_9852904
 

I also find this to be fairly accurate.

 

I must note, however, that when the DX50 is amped through it's line-out at full gain it can certainly manage a side-by-side comparison with the Studio - you'd be hard pressed to find missing details (possibly in the high-mids), and the separation/transparency (through line-out to JDS C5 amp) sounds, to my ears, quite a bit better than the Studio on its own.

 

I'm noting this as I listen portably with Heir 4.Ai IEMs, and the sound I get with the Studio by itself is just too bright...way too bright...and relatively hissy.  I paired it with a JDS C5 amp and that really helped, but cut a bit of the midrange detail.  In fact, the studio doesn't play so well with external amps in my opinion.

 

My Studio died again the other day (wahh!), but I'm going to make sure to get it up and running again.  The DX50 + JDS C5 has now become my 'trustworthy' pairing.

post #815 of 1160

You're simply describing what interfaces work together and found something that works better with the 4ai's noted unique frequency response. 

post #816 of 1160
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Originally Posted by treal512 View Post
 

 

+1. That is a fair assessment of the players.

I think he'll find the anv3 less aggressive and warmer.


Edited by goodvibes - 12/16/13 at 8:20am
post #817 of 1160
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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post
 

You're simply describing what interfaces work together and found something that works better with the 4ai's noted unique frequency response. 

Exactly.  The Studio on its own sounds fantastic with an array of headphones I've tried with it...just doesn't work with the 4Ai, which I love.

 

Sorry if I wasn't more explicit about that.

post #818 of 1160
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Originally Posted by Gignac View Post
 

Exactly.  The Studio on its own sounds fantastic with an array of headphones I've tried with it...just doesn't work with the 4Ai, which I love.

 

Sorry if I wasn't more explicit about that.

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I received my Studio 3rd anv today, in world record time, (thank you Lee) I'm really enjoying it with my Rhapsodio RDB Mini, which was the entire plan of purchase. The synergy seems great, there's a little bit of sibilance coming through in vocals which is normal for those albums, maybe a touch more, however I'm really happy with the outcome and shape of the unit. What a great time as well just before Christmas. No super fancy pictures atm just settling in with the player, however all is well in Hisound land for H20. 


:beerchug:

post #820 of 1160

Congrats. Wish mine still looked that good.:tongue_smile:

post #821 of 1160
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

I received my Studio 3rd anv today, in world record time, (thank you Lee) I'm really enjoying it with my Rhapsodio RDB Mini, which was the entire plan of purchase. The synergy seems great, there's a little bit of sibilance coming through in vocals which is normal for those albums, maybe a touch more, however I'm really happy with the outcome and shape of the unit. What a great time as well just before Christmas. No super fancy pictures atm just settling in with the player, however all is well in Hisound land for H20. 




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Congrats H20Fidelity for your Studio 3rd ANV Edition
post #822 of 1160
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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post
 

Congrats. Wish mine still looked that good.:tongue_smile:

 

 

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Originally Posted by rudi0504 View Post


Congrats H20Fidelity for your Studio 3rd ANV Edition


Thank you!

post #823 of 1160

Possible permanent fix?

 

So, as mentioned, my Studio recently gave up on me again.  This is not the first time, by far, but I'm always spurred on to open it up and see what I can tinker with.

 

One source of some of the initial issues was the amount of pressure on the circuit board which was causing shorts to the unit (constant resets while USB plugged into wall/computer), and I resolved that issue rather easily by loosening the tension on the board screws, removing some of the foam padding and replacing it will thinner insulation, and making sure the back plate sat flush before reinserting the set screws.

 

This time, upon opening the unit, I discovered that there was a split in the connection of two of the solder points on the USB adapter.  Whether these occurred when I took the board out of the unit and replaced it (likely), or whether this has been the case for a while, my thought was: hey, the higher pressure on the back plate pushing the battery against the USB port housing (which is the highest point on that side of the board) may have been a bandaid for this break.

 

I re-soldered the USB connection where it had broken and...voila.  It started up just fine, so I put everything back to it's low-pressure state and so far, so good.

 

 

The failure of the unit always occurred after doing a charge, so...who knows, maybe I'm crazy, but I'm hoping this will solve the problem for good.

 

Goodvibes:  I paired it up with my C5 amp and...jeez...I just really hope this player keeps working for me.  It's still such a much cleaner sound than the dx50.  The dx50 will continue to sit idly by as long as my Studio keeps chugging along.

 

p.s. - Sorry, didn't take photos this time!

post #824 of 1160

Careful Gignac, you don't want to many DX50 people reading your impressions. It's likely to start a war lol

:wink_face:

post #825 of 1160
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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post

 
Careful Gignac, you don't want to many DX50 people reading your impressions. It's likely to start a war lol
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Aww, true, those sensitive DX50 users wink_face.gif

I think what the DX50 users should take from my endless troubles with the Studio is this:

I would gladly open up the Studio time and time again searching for the source of problems, as the setup I have really allows this player to shine.

The Studio is, technically speaking, pretty straightforward internally and, when opened up, seems to actually invite me to work on it. It's design is very tinker-friendly, for those with the right background.

Should my DX50 need to be opened up and have parts re-soldered, I would probably just stick it on the shelf as I couldn't see myself messing around with the internals of iBasso products.  In fact, they should really have the warning 'No User Serviceable Parts Inside' written on the back of their products.
Edited by Gignac - 12/17/13 at 3:51pm
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