Thapchild, to your original point, and the reason I think this thread was started is really the difference the new freqphase tech has had on the bass response. I just ordered a pair of 16's and I am curious too. This my first CIEM, and I based my decision similarly on the reviews of this community, and more specifically those on the 13's and the 16's. Although I like a clean sound, and would not consider myself a basshead, it seems I like a little more bass than many (ok maybe I'm in denial). I'm just wondering, as you are, if the freqphase tech brings the 16's sound a little closer to neutral in comparison to the previous version. I don't know if we will get a clear opinion until some lucky people with both express their views. Either way, I can't wait for them to arrive!
I agree, that may be the case. Perhaps freqphase has tamed the beast slightly, but I probably do like more bass than most. The thing about the JH16 is they have the ability to really rattle your brains out. But to do it, they need power, and for the power required the mids/highs are deafening. I can throw in a verrrrry old Dr. Crankenstine Bass CD (used when I had a competition system in my car) and it feels like I have subs strapped to my head. My TF10 can't produce the bass like the JH16. Then with out changing any settings on my source, I can play "float on" by Modest Mouse and I really can't hear/feel the kick drum. It's there, but I have to try and focus on it. I'm asking too much from headphones I'd guess, but my home system you can still feel the kick drum... In my car with factory Bose system (which i lothe bose) i can still feel the kick drum.
Perhaps its just the difference between IEM and real speakers. I expected to feel the kick drum on most rock songs with the JH16, but track to track the bass is either awesome, or just in the background. But songs like Modest Mouse - Float on, on JH13 if they lack that much more bass than the JH16, you wouldn't even hear it! Maybe I've rocked out too hard for too long?!