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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post

Some moons back - say 2008 - I drew a line in the sand. I would NOT spend north of $2k on headphones. Period. That's speaker territory for my wallet, a clearly defined one without blur or confusion.

And then...

...like many, my lifestyle changed. No longer having my own place. Or living largely by myself - suddenly having to consider others nearby in the way of roommates. In fact, this is the origin of WooAudio pretty much and how they came into being as a business. Many living in NYC close to each other, on top of each other and speakers for many were no longer an option. WA understood this and emerged to satisfy this reality.

Fast forward to 2013 and I cannot for the life of me find that line once firmly drawn. I did look for it rolleyes.gif
recently and closely - there's simply no sign or trace of its existence. I just sold my beloved D7000 and for the very first time I'm considering scratching or surpassing the line I once drew. And without balking. 
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A fav song of mine is "You Can't Lose What You Never Had" - by The Muddy Waters Tribute Band. I enjoyed listening to the HE-6 for a few months, the HD800 and while they did bring me some things I had been missing, I was content settling back in with my D7000 and not worried about what I didn't have. Rather, enjoying my music library with what I did have in the D7000.

Only because my listening pleasure must remain private for now, and I want to replace my cans with something of quality, we're headed north! wink.gif
 Well, potentially...

You can get a new basic STAX rig for less than $600 USD nowadays. It sounds better than many of the dynamic an planar magnetic headphones to me and you still don't go past $1000.
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You can get a new basic STAX rig for less than $600 USD nowadays. It sounds better than many of the dynamic an planar magnetic headphones to me and you still don't go past $1000.

 

Ah, you caught my use of the word potentially... I'll be screening south of $2k,wink_face.gif trust me. Not familiar with Stax options, but I know a few mafia members who'll be glad to help. Thanks for weighing-in.

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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post

 

Happy Honestly, I wish I could just shove a pair of K-Horns in either corner...

 

Don't forget, this is head-fi. wink.gif

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Don't forget, this is head-fi. wink.gif

 

But... the K-Horns would give a place to rest my HD650 tongue_smile.gif while I run to the fridge!

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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post

 

But... the K-Horns would give a place to rest my HD650 tongue_smile.gif while I run to the fridge!

I'm not buying it... wink.gif

 

(I do, however, want to buy a pair of Magnepan's...  Oops!  Did that just slip out?  tongue_smile.gif)

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FYI, I have posted a very very brief summary of my initial finding of the Abyss ab-1266

in comparison to the HD800.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/666765/first-impressions-jps-labs-abyss-ab-1266-planar-magnetic-headphones/300#post_9637383

 

 

Overall, It is a better headphone than the hd800. It's like they mixed most of the good points of an LCD3 with a HD800. Very enjoyable headphone. 

 

I found that playing with different earpads positions can drastically improve the bass. It took a while to get the 'optimal' fit.

 

I am currently still burning in these headphones. 

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I want to give the Abyss a serious consideration, but I have major doubts it's $4000 better than an HD800 (and $2000 better than owning an LCD-3 and an HD800).

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Originally Posted by GoldfishX View Post

I want to give the Abyss a serious consideration, but I have major doubts it's $4000 better than an HD800 (and $2000 better than owning an LCD-3 and an HD800).

 

I will probably have to agree with you there. You could also get a th900 or a T1 with the remaining $2000. 

 

I could probably make the same argument for the star sr-009. The point is that the HD800 and others (like the lcd3 and he-6 maybe) are damn close to these super expensive headphones (with the right setup).

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I'd recommend buying 275 sets of Unipolar 2000/HER 2000 instead.

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Originally Posted by citadel View Post

 

I could probably make the same argument for the star sr-009. The point is that the HD800 and others (like the lcd3 and he-6 maybe) are damn close to these super expensive headphones (with the right setup).

good point!!!

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Well yeah. So far to me, one of the main benefits of the planar magnetic headphones is their affordability. That makes the Abyss seem even more expensive than it is, even though it can driven off a normal amplifier like the Burson.

 

Plus, I agree with Tyll...The LOOK of that thing makes it easy to not want one.

 

I think it's acceptable (unfortunately) that electrostats are naturally expensive and as are their amps, just based on precedents like the Stax models and the Orpheus. I just don't think there's a ton of room for a lot of super-expensive headphones like that.

 

But for my own curiousity, I would love to see where David would throw it into the ranking.

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Would actually like to hear David's experiences and thoughts on the different driver technologies.
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Thread Starter 

Hopefully i will get to everyones questions in the past few days:)...

 

 

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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

Fidelio x1?

I probably won't be adding this to the evaluation, but i would consider it. At this point I would probably need to sell off gear to fit new gear.  I am out space and close to out of $ :)

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Originally Posted by Wyd4 View Post

Wow.
Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed response.
I am potentially moving from a very easy set of headphones to listen to so I have some reservations.
The Momentums are a great pair of headphones but I don't know, they leave me wanting more.
I feel like the highs are almost dulled and the bass seems to 'thud', though it is no slouch in the bass department.
I also find the cups slightly small on the senns.

Hope I am making the right choice

The Momentums and HE400 are such different headphones.  The Momentums are a travel partner and sound great (IMO) for casual smart phone listening.  When I was sent a demo pair from Sennheiser I was really impressed with the overall build for the type of application it was designed for.  I also thought it resembled the AH-D1100 sonically, which is a headphone I enjoy.

 

The HE-400 is portable compatible, but not really a similar type of portable.

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Originally Posted by toronto8 View Post

So the reversion 2 eliminated this issue?..wondering is the warranty transferable to the next owner?.

Yes the warranty is transferable, and I feel that the recent versions alleviated the issue (even if not quite eliminated) because they use metal connectors rather than wood.  That was typically the achilles heal of the wood.  The Bamboo may have a higher success rate with regard to cracking, but it may also be that the bamboo has only been made with the metal connectors as opposed to the rosewood which has a bit more design history.

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Originally Posted by jincuteguy View Post

For the OP, did you have any chance getting the DT 990 Pro (250ohm) and DT 990 (250 or 600ohm) and have it added to this comparison collection? Also, did u ever buy the M-100? Any help would be appreciated.

I used to own the DT990 250 ohm, and a coworker of mine uses a DT990 32 ohm at his desk.  I think the headphone has a lot of good qualities.  It is a very exciting balance, even if its not quite entirely natural to my ears.  But overall, I still think the overall resolution is very good.  Haven't used the M-100.

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Originally Posted by toronto8 View Post

So the reversion 2 has fixed the cracking issue?..I love the look of the Rosewood more than the Bamboo...

I would say so, for the most part.

 

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Originally Posted by rb2013 View Post

If anyone has a spare $22K laying around - a Sennheiser Orpheus HE90/HEV 90 set just listed over at Audiogon.

 

 

https://app.audiogon.com/listings/over-ear-sennheiser-orpheus-he90-hev-90-set-matching-pair-rare-and-original-2013-07-10-headphones-germany

It's amazing how often they come up considering theres less than 300 systems in existence.

 

 

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Originally Posted by 3X0 View Post

That's why I'm really interested to see what David Solomon's take is on the HE60 relative to the HE90 (for obvious reasons wink_face.gif).

I keep meaning to code this.  The HE60 really adds some perspective I think because its very very good. 

 

I've had some recent work and commissions that have stopped me from having any free time.

 

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Originally Posted by Wyd4 View Post

Hi there,

Here is a can of worms...

 

HE-400 or Grado rs2i.

 

I know they are completely different phones.

However both are within my price range and I have never heard either in person.

Where I live you can probably look around and find demo's for Beats (or stab yourself in the ears if preferred) and MAYBE some other rappers brand.

 

I am looking to replace my Sennheiser Momentums as discussed in previous posts (I think).


In any case I listen to a broad range of music.  Primarily Metal/Rock, but to throw a potential spanner in the grado works, electronic including 90's trance, Happy Hardcore etc etc.

I also listen to classical and acoustic from time to time, however I am not going to complain if  my classical is ever so slightly off if the above is somewhat satisfied.

 

Generally speaking I like a bass capable headphone.  By that I don't mean a muddy horrible sound (enter Beats), but I like it to be strong enough. 

I believe both of the headphones above a capable in that regard.

Other than that, I basically want a phone that is fairly balanced sound.

 

I was going to get the HE-400's hands down days ago, however I want to make sure I cover all bases before I go outlay up to $500 on a set of headphones.

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer :).


Scott

I say HE-400, but it will depend on your listening pref.  Both are in the review so I won't comment on the sonic differences here, but I obviously like the HE-400 more:)

 

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Originally Posted by rparmar View Post

Just became a member here and want to thank you for this insane review. Though I am sure the pleasure was all yours!

 

I will never be able to afford even one item from your list but thank goodness I somehow manage to enjoy music despite this limitation!

Thanks!  But wait.... not everything in the review is $$$, some very good values in there.  And those models are very important.

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I know this has been already asked before, and probably even by me, but I'd love to see the JVC DX1000 on that ranking.
 

I heard the DX1000 at a meet recently and I may not have given it a fair shake, but I wasn't taken quite so much.  The owner really loved them though.  It's extremely difficult for me to judge a headphone at a meet.  A little easier when the headphone is closed, but still hard.  Some headphones grow on me over the course of several listens.

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

I would respectfully request that the Maddog be added if and when possible. IMO it's one of the best values in the game. 

I know a lot of people wish for this to be on the list.  If I continue to add into next year, I will probably add this, but I don't think I'm going to add much more.  

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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

Would actually like to hear David's experiences and thoughts on the different driver technologies.

From the sonic perspective, Electrostatics have a clean/fast sound and generally sound more transparent to me.

I like the way R10's drivers sound and they are probably the closest non-electrostatic to sound closest to electrostatic.  The dynamic transducers have more weight in their sound and often have a more visceral bass impact.  The planar magnetics seem have a lot of the characteristics on both sides of the fence, impact and speed, but I think there are obviously some dynamic and some electrostatic which trump the best planar magnetics that i've heard.  I would have written more  on this matter but i need to give my hands a rest for now lol

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