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post #2941 of 5370

Heya,


Is the HE-400 anygood without amping?
I am considering getting them, but I do not have an amp at this stage,

If extremely necessary I can easily purchase one, 
But which amp also?

Thanks

post #2942 of 5370
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Originally Posted by Death3man View Post

Heya,


Is the HE-400 anygood without amping?
I am considering getting them, but I do not have an amp at this stage,

If extremely necessary I can easily purchase one, 
But which amp also?

Thanks

Amps don't have to cost a fortune with the HE-400. The HE-400 will sound fine without an amp but a Fiio E17 is definitely worth the money, if you have a litte more cash, consider the Schiit Magni and Modi combo.

post #2943 of 5370
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Originally Posted by Death3man View Post

Heya,


Is the HE-400 anygood without amping?
I am considering getting them, but I do not have an amp at this stage,

If extremely necessary I can easily purchase one, 
But which amp also?

Thanks

According to the manufacturer it is supposed to sound great even out of an iPod. I haven't tried it yet as I got HE-400 just yesterday:)

post #2944 of 5370
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Originally Posted by Sniping View Post

Amps don't have to cost a fortune with the HE-400. The HE-400 will sound fine without an amp but a Fiio E17 is definitely worth the money, if you have a litte more cash, consider the Schiit Magni and Modi combo.

Or try a emotiva..i heard it pairs well with the he400 also and is cheap.

post #2945 of 5370
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Or try a emotiva..i heard it pairs well with the he400 also and is cheap.

You'd better have a pre-amp though, otherwise you'll only get may 2 degrees of adjustment on the Emotiva knob with HE400.

post #2946 of 5370
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

 

 

Here you go (again, just my 2 cents):

 

 

1.) SR-009

2.) SR-009

3.) LCD-3

4.) HD800

5.) TH-900

6.) LCD-2 = HE-6 

7.) T1

8.) HE-500

9.) W3000ANV

10.) Ed. 8LE

 

My original rankings had to do with current "flagships" only. But both the HE-500 and LCD-2s are fantastic headphones and upon second thought are more than suitable to be on this list.

thank you.

post #2947 of 5370
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Or try a emotiva..i heard it pairs well with the he400 also and is cheap.

 

 

I wouldn't do that..

post #2948 of 5370
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

I wouldn't do that..

I read on the emotiva appreciation thread it does..with some kind of resistor in between..oh well..maybe i read it wrong..i do have experience with the mstage..that little buddy. Drives the he400 with flying colors..i know..as i owned one for 2 years..

post #2949 of 5370
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

I read on the emotiva appreciation thread it does..with some kind of resistor in between..oh well..maybe i read it wrong..i do have experience with the mstage..that little buddy. Drives the he400 with flying colors..i know..as i owned one for 2 years..

 

 

O Ok yeah with some resistor should work.. My bad.

post #2950 of 5370
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Originally Posted by leylandi View Post

thank you.

No problem. smile.gif

post #2951 of 5370
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

I find the HD800s more resolving and detailed than the HE-6s...so you can do the math. wink.gif evil_smiley.gif

The HE-6 audibly has superior details across the spectrum compared to the HD800's on my McIntosh 225 besides upwards 2khz. The LCD-3 pads do contribute a lot. The velours really muddy the sound in comparison. The stock leathers are simply bad with the HE-6. The highs on the HD800 are noticeably better controlled at ~2khz point and up though.

post #2952 of 5370

(I've posted the following question on HE-400 thread, but I would like to put it here too, as more people might have both LCD-2.2 and HE-400 here)

 

Two days ago I bought HE-400 as a complementary headphone to my LCD-2 rev.2. I am experiencing a strange thing - HE-400 makes me listen to the music much louder than LCD-2 does? It is as if on LCD-2 I can hear everything even on low volumes and on HE-400 I need to listen louder to get the same feeling of hearing everything. (I use the recommended velour pads on HE-400). Can someone explain this phenomenon?


Edited by korzena - 2/21/13 at 1:44am
post #2953 of 5370

Also I am not sure if HE-400 is such a good complementary headphone to LCD-2.2. I think the sound of both have quite a lot in common. I appreciate HE-400's greater aggresiveness, however I don't think it's much faster than my LCD-2. At the same time the 'tizziness' in treble annoys me a bit and 'forces' me to consider using EQ (which I am not a big fan of).
 

Will my brain/HE-400 burn in to the point where the treble won't be an issue or I should come to the conclusion HE-400 is not for me? If so, what is a good alternative for a complementary headphone to LCD-2.2 that will be used mainly for listening to 'spacious' electronic music?

I would like such headphone to:
- have more air and feel of spaciousness in depth, width and height
- more aggressiveness and speed
- sound that has good weight (not thin)
- very engaging and emotional



To a great degree I find my Westone 3 (IEM) such a headphone. If I could find this kind of sound in full-sized, I would be very happy:)
post #2954 of 5370
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Originally Posted by korzena View Post

Also I am not sure if HE-400 is such a good complementary headphone to LCD-2.2. I think the sound of both have quite a lot in common. I appreciate HE-400's greater aggresiveness, however I don't think it's much faster than my LCD-2. At the same time the 'tizziness' in treble annoys me a bit and 'forces' me to consider using EQ (which I am not a big fan of).
 

Will my brain/HE-400 burn in to the point where the treble won't be an issue or I should come to the conclusion HE-400 is not for me? If so, what is a good alternative for a complementary headphone to LCD-2.2 that will be used mainly for listening to 'spacious' electronic music?

I would like such headphone to:
- have more air and feel of spaciousness in depth, width and height
- more aggressiveness and speed
- sound that has good weight (not thin)
- very engaging and emotional



To a great degree I find my Westone 3 (IEM) such a headphone. If I could find this kind of sound in full-sized, I would be very happy:)

I'm enjoying the K701's as a nice compliment to the Audeze at then mo.  Give them plenty of juice and you can get a very balanced, open and engaging sound. Warning though, under-amp these and they will sound a little thin. They may sound wamer with certain amps but may still be under amped and woolly sounding with not enough current. There is also the treble peak. Problem is at this level, big soundstage and treble peaks go hand in hand - can't have one without the other unless you want to go high Stax territory. Even my old K702's had bigger soundstage albeit the extra treble/less warmth. Equaliszing isn't too bad if you always subtract rather than add. I've been playing around with the foobar equalizer and a couple of notches down at both 2 and 10khz sorts it out in an instant. You haven't added anything so there shouldn't be any added distortion.

Or you could go for the Annies wink_face.gif 

But I don't think there is much else for you that ticks all the boxes above in the price range, maybe a 650 with the driver foam mod? but even then the soundstage is nowhere near as good as the AKG's. As regards to 'emotional' don't think that you can do better than the LCD2's. I attribute warmth and body to bring out a close and more intimate sound that can be much more emotional than a large articulate sound.

Some peeps like the new Philips X1's as a kind of mix of 650 and KXX with compensations like not as good timbre.. but could be an option.  

post #2955 of 5370
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

There is also the treble peak. Problem is at this level, big soundstage and treble peaks go hand in hand - can't have one without the other unless you want to go high Stax territory. 

 

Get yourself a pair of new HD800, my friend... No harsh peaks, extremely defined soundstage and no need for tube amps in order to enjoy their sound (at least with newer batches). Keep LCD-2 to complement them. You're done!

 

Look at my signature - if a treble-sensitive person like me can fully enjoy them with modern genres and on neutral SS amp, you definitely would as well!

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