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post #4981 of 4990

I really like the idea (posted above, not by me) of a periodic review of current "flagship" cans and IEM's - to build on David's work and keep it going.  The inputs should be controlled to have an accurate comparison between end-rigs.  Draw on David's knowledge regarding the review elements - IMO, his review elements cover all the important aspects of a HP.  Design objective rating scales for the review elements, to compare on a numerical scale.  Perhaps Jude will write a job description for this work, a new position within Head-Fi.  Those of us who are interested in the position can apply...sounds like fun to me!

post #4982 of 4990
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Originally Posted by snip3r77 View Post
 

Hi guys,

 

I'm currently using HE-500 with La Figaro 339. I was thinking of upgrading which is already quite good. Which are the headphones that you guys will recommend? I'm thinking hard on HE-560 but I think it could just be a sidegrade.

 

The HE-560 is a slight upgrade to the HE-500; bigger sound stage than both the HE-500 and HE-6, more airy sound, a little bit more detailed, but also a little bit brighter in my opinion (swapping pads might change this according to the HE-560 thread).  The HE-6 however is more of a direct upgrade to the HE-500, but you need a powerhouse of an amplifier to go along with it obviously.  Better bass, speed, detail, clarity and separation than both the HE-560 and HE-500, and tonally it is very similar to the HE-500.

post #4983 of 4990

David - thank you so much for the review.  I wish I had found this about a year ago.  Really felt you were fair and objective.  Thanks again!

post #4984 of 4990
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The HE-560 is a slight upgrade to the HE-500; bigger sound stage than both the HE-500 and HE-6, more airy sound, a little bit more detailed, but also a little bit brighter in my opinion (swapping pads might change this according to the HE-560 thread).  The HE-6 however is more of a direct upgrade to the HE-500, but you need a powerhouse of an amplifier to go along with it obviously.  Better bass, speed, detail, clarity and separation than both the HE-560 and HE-500, and tonally it is very similar to the HE-500.

 

The HE-6 and HE-500 does not sound similar.  The HE-500 stands out on its own.  The HE-6, HE-5LE, HE-4 are more tonally alike.

post #4985 of 4990
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The HE-6 and HE-500 does not sound similar.  The HE-500 stands out on its own.  The HE-6, HE-5LE, HE-4 are more tonally alike.

 

Never heard the HE5-LE or HE-4 but isn't the HE-4 more V-shaped?  Both the HE-500 and HE-6 have a neutral frequency balance, the HE-6 is just more aggressive.

post #4986 of 4990

The HE-500 is more forgiving and has a warmer tone compared to the HE-6.  The bass on the 500s is not as tight compared to the HE-6.  I owned all these headphones at the same time.  I sold off the 5LE and the 4 and kept the 500 and the HE-6 because they where more different than alike.  I later sold the 500 because the HE-6 got all the head time.

 

The HE-4 V shape? Yeah but that's the FR not the tone.  

 

The HE-6 and all the HE-X has a brighter, airy tone.  The HE-XXX has a more warmer tone.  Excluding the new 560.

 

What amps have you heard the HE-500 and the HE-6 on?


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post #4987 of 4990
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

The HE-500 is more forgiving and has a warmer tone compared to the HE-6.  The bass on the 500s is not as tight compared to the HE-6.  I owned all these headphones at the same time.  I sold off the 5LE and the 4 and kept the 500 and the HE-6 because they where more different than alike.  I later sold the 500 because the HE-6 got all the head time.

 

The HE-4 V shape? Yeah but that's the FR not the tone.  

 

The HE-6 and all the HE-X has a brighter, airy tone.  The HE-XXX has a more warmer tone.  Excluding the new 560.

 

What amps have you heard the HE-500 and the HE-6 on?

 

I think the lack of bass tightness of the HE-500 compared to the HE-6 is more of an example of the HE-6 being an upgrade.  Maybe that applies to the greater amount of airiness in the HE-6 too, but that's more personal preference I guess.  I also said the HE-500 is more forgiving (partially due to being a bit more laid back in the treble), so that is a difference between them, but personally I didn't find the differences here to be drastic (the HD 650 would be a much more drastic example of this).  For what it's worth I found the HE-560 to be brighter than both of them.

 

I heard both the HE-500 and HE-6 on the HeadAmp GS-X Mk2.  If I recall correctly the HE-500 was single ended while the HE-6 was balanced.

post #4988 of 4990

The GS-X mk2 is a pretty darn good amp.  I sold mine and kept the First Watt F1J.  

 

Well it's not really a personal preference that it has more air - it's personal preference if you like it or not.  You would hear more a difference if you could hear the others ie. HE-4 and the HE-5LE.  All have the same tone as the HE-6.  Where the 500 has a warmer tone.  That's all I'm saying.  

post #4989 of 4990
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The GS-X mk2 is a pretty darn good amp.  I sold mine and kept the First Watt F1J.  

 

Well it's not really a personal preference that it has more air - it's personal preference if you like it or not.  You would hear more a difference if you could hear the others ie. HE-4 and the HE-5LE.  All have the same tone as the HE-6.  Where the 500 has a warmer tone.  That's all I'm saying.  

 

Whoops, I meant to say that finding the added airiness of the HE-6 to be beneficial is personal preference.  I would love to hear the HE-5LE, though I doubt I ever will.  I like that the HE-6 and HE-500 are ranked very highly in the original posts though, I have to agree.  The HE-6 is my favorite non-electrostatic headphone. 

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