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Yes, that is correct for some of the new models like the 1.7s. Actually, I found a great deal on a pr of 1.6qrs at Echo Hifi in Portland. Like new $825! These sold for $1900 new. This speaker uses a planar mid-bass driver and a quasi-ribbon tweeter. I owned the original Magnepans in 1979, in college! They were pure planar. There are some awesome mods for these - see the Magnestand mods review on Positive-Feedback. I will likely at least do the crossover mod.
How about Magnepan build a qr headphone! How cool would that be?

You could purchase a pair of these, find a way to suspend them over your head.....and find the highest wattage amp into 4 ohms you can get your hands on: smile.gif

 

http://www.magnepan.com/model_mini_maggie

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Originally Posted by rb2013 View Post


Yes, that is correct for some of the new models like the 1.7s. Actually, I found a great deal on a pr of 1.6qrs at Echo Hifi in Portland. Like new $825! These sold for $1900 new. This speaker uses a planar mid-bass driver and a quasi-ribbon tweeter. I owned the original Magnepans in 1979, in college! They were pure planar. There are some awesome mods for these - see the Magnestand mods review on Positive-Feedback. I will likely at least do the crossover mod.
How about Magnepan build a qr headphone! How cool would that be?

 

I was just there a little over a month ago looking at some Magnepans. I ended up leaving with an HD800 biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Maybe just the alpha dog eventually?  As it is the 'flagship' of mr. speakers.

perhaps!

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Originally Posted by jwusoccer View Post

I think that's a great idea! That would be immensely helpful, especially for people just getting into hi-fi.

Thank you:)

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Originally Posted by imackler View Post

Your review of the SE535 was spot on, David. I love the SE535... until I listen to classical with them! But I'm curious what kind of value rating you would give them at the $350 price point. I recently picked up a new pair from an authorized Shure dealer around $350... I'm torn by them because what they do well they do really well, but their flaws are unforgivable...unless I stay away from classical tracks! 

I think for $350 they're a better value, but I still would take the Westone 4 over all.  It remains my favorite universal I've tried.

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Originally Posted by 3X0 View Post

I wonder which will come first: that or the complete restoration of my pair of HE60s. tongue_smile.gif

I have been in the works of adding the HE60s to my review for some time now.  I've been so busy with other avenues of my life that I keep neglecting to have it included.  I also have a Hifiman addition in the works. 

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Originally Posted by LFC_SL View Post

 

Good effort on the tour. Would suggest Fostex TH600 as a candidate for final entrants tongue_smile.gif

I haven't yet considered the TH600, but its an interesting concept.

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Originally Posted by Shazb0t View Post

Any idea of when we'll see the Koss ESP-950? I'm very interested to see how it stacks up in your opinion.

I once almost pulled the trigger on this, and I would ultimately like to get to know this headphone.  To this day, I haven't heard it, not even at a meet.

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Originally Posted by glunteer View Post

great post !

Thank you

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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post

David

I recently bought the Kingsound electrostatic HP and the Kingsound SS amp. My first foray into the electrostatic world. IF you do have some time, it would be great if you listened to this set up. I am listening to the Traveling Wilburys on them and did some quick comparisons with the LCD-3 and HE-500. This is mind-boggling to me but the Kingsounds sound quite a bit better than the other two HPs. There I just said it because part of me still refuses to believe this. Is it correct to presume the electrostatic will have better clarity, detail etc than the planars ?

 

Thanks

Congratulations on taking the ES route.  I am sure the Kingsounds offer an example of what electrostatics can do.  I will definitely look for it at the next meet.  It may have more detail than planar magnetics.  I would say generally, yes this is the case, but its also on headphone by headphone basis.

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Originally Posted by DavidMahler View Post

I think for $350 they're a better value, but I still would take the Westone 4 over all.  It remains my favorite universal I've tried.

 

Cool! Thanks for taking the time to respond! 

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Originally Posted by SMG52 View Post

You could purchase a pair of these, find a way to suspend them over your head.....and find the highest wattage amp into 4 ohms you can get your hands on: smile.gif


http://www.magnepan.com/model_mini_maggie
Don't think that hasn't crossed my mind!:-)
post #4416 of 4961
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Originally Posted by Stalker81598 View Post

I was just there a little over a month ago looking at some Magnepans. I ended up leaving with an HD800 biggrin.gif
That was a good call! Maggies, or no Maggies - I ain't letting my HD800s go.
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Talking about classical cans, I was looking at the beyer dt660 and was wondering if anyone has any experience in comparing them to akg k601s or the newer k612

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Hey David,

I can’t thank you enough for putting this list together! My headphone rig simply wouldn’t be what it is today without your help. Thank you!

 

The only thing, and really the only thing, I wish you had included is the physical weight of a headphone. Speaking for myself, this is often a big factor when it comes to the comfort of a headphone (In your defense, you do often touch on the subject in the “comfort” section); just a simple number in addition to that would’ve been great. However, I don’t really know how important this issue is to the general Head-Fi public.

 

Well, for those interested, I looked up the weight of every headphone on the list (IEMs excluded). Whenever possible I used the manufacturer’s specifications. I tried to do my best but data was a little hard to come by on a few of the out-of-production headphones or earlier revision models. Anyway, here’s the list (Headphones are listed according to their Battle of the Flagships ranking, and unless otherwise noted, the weights do not include the cable):

 

 

1. SENNHEISER HE90 (Orpheus)
365 g
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2. STAX SR-009
454 g
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3. SONY MDR-R10 (bass-light)
400 g
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4. SONY MDR-R10 (bass-heavy)
400 g
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5. STAX SR-Omega
380 g
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6. SENNHEISER HD800
330 g
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7. HE AUDIO JADE
???
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8. AUDEZ'E LCD-3
548 g
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9. HIFIMAN HE-6
502 g
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10. STAX SR-007 MkI
??? (MkII weighs 365 g)
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11. AUDE'ZE LCD-2 (Revision 2)
490 g (bamboo composite)
522 g (rosewood)
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12. GRADO HP2
450 g (with cable?)
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13. AUDEZ'E LCD-2 (Revision 1)
??? (Rev 2 in rosewood weighs 522 g)
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14. BEYERDYNAMIC T1
350 g
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15. STAX SR-007 MkII
365 g
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16. STAX SR-Sigma
400 g
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17. HIFIMAN HE-500
502 g
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18. STAX SR-507
388 g
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19. ULTRASONE Edition 10
282 g
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20. AKG K1000
270 g
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21. SENNHEISER HD650
260 g
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22. SENNHEISER HD600
260 g
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24. FOSTEX TH900
400 g
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26. HIFIMAN HE-400
440 g
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27. AUDIO-TECHNICA ATH-W3000ANV
340 g
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28. BEYERDYNAMIC DT 880 (600 Ohm)
295 g
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29. SHURE SRH1840
268 g
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30. GRADO PS1000
500 g
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31. SENNHEISER HD700
270 g
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32. AUDIO-TECHNICA ATH-AD900
250 g
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33. DENON AH-D7000
370 g
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34. ULTRASONE Edition 8 Limited
260 g
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35. ALESSANDRO MS Pro
My pair weighs 275 g with the cable
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38. SONY Q010-MDR1
200 g
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39. AKG K501
235 g
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40. AKG K702
235 g
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41. GRADO RS1
255 g with cable
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42. BEYERDYNAMIC DT 660
350 g
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43. GRADO RS2
255 g with cable
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44. SONY MDR-SA5000
260 g
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46. BEYERDYNAMIC DT 770 (250 Ohm)
270 g
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47. DENON AH-D950
250 g
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48. KAM HP1
220 g
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54. ULTRASONE HFI-700
350 g
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58. AUDIO-TECHNICA ATH-W5000
340 g

 

 

Best,

Joel


Edited by avrosse - 8/17/13 at 10:17am
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^terrific job

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+1
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Joel, great job. Now that I know I have the heaviest HPs, off to the gym to strengthen my neck and traps. 😄
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post

Joel, great job. Now that I know I have the heaviest HPs, off to the gym to strengthen my neck and traps. 😄

me too.....

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The hifimans weigh 30 gram more due to the pads as I remember. Gj
post #4424 of 4961
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post

Joel, great job. Now that I know I have the heaviest HPs, off to the gym to strengthen my neck and traps. 😄
LOL +1
post #4425 of 4961
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Originally Posted by avrosse View Post

Hey David,

I can’t thank you enough for putting this list together! My headphone rig simply wouldn’t be what it is today without your help. Thank you!

 

...

Best,

Joel

 

I know that I'm a total geek because of how much I appreciate that list. So cool! I never would have guessed how much weight would affect the comfort of a headphone until I tried to listen to my newly acquired Mad Dog for a couple hours. When I got tired, I was shocked at how light my HD600 seemed... what a difference 140 grams will make! 

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