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post #4291 of 4940

Hi there,

Here is a can of worms...

 

HE-400 or Grado rs2i.

 

I know they are completely different phones.

However both are within my price range and I have never heard either in person.

Where I live you can probably look around and find demo's for Beats (or stab yourself in the ears if preferred) and MAYBE some other rappers brand.

 

I am looking to replace my Sennheiser Momentums as discussed in previous posts (I think).


In any case I listen to a broad range of music.  Primarily Metal/Rock, but to throw a potential spanner in the grado works, electronic including 90's trance, Happy Hardcore etc etc.

I also listen to classical and acoustic from time to time, however I am not going to complain if  my classical is ever so slightly off if the above is somewhat satisfied.

 

Generally speaking I like a bass capable headphone.  By that I don't mean a muddy horrible sound (enter Beats), but I like it to be strong enough. 

I believe both of the headphones above a capable in that regard.

Other than that, I basically want a phone that is fairly balanced sound.

 

I was going to get the HE-400's hands down days ago, however I want to make sure I cover all bases before I go outlay up to $500 on a set of headphones.

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer :).


Scott

post #4292 of 4940

Wrong thread.

Try posting here:-

http://www.head-fi.org/f/7840/introductions-help-and-recommendations

post #4293 of 4940
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Wrong thread.
Try posting here:-
http://www.head-fi.org/f/7840/introductions-help-and-recommendations

Apologies, I have now posted it over there
post #4294 of 4940

YAY....another Abyss review:

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/jps-labs-abyss-ab-1266-planar-magnetic-headphones

 

 

It's a mixed bag. Does things better than both the Stax sr-009 and HD800, but apparently has a couple of "flaws"

(for the reviewer's (Tyll) taste).

 

I have actually done something very brave (or stupid). I have ordered an Abyss ab-1266.

Hopefully would pair well with my audio-gd nfb 27 dac/amp.

 

I was considering a Stax sr-009 setup but the investment I had to put in a very good electrostatic amp (in terms of cost, and  more importantly, desk space) made me go for these instead. I also would like a soundstage reminiscent of the HD800 with a planar magnetic bass.. I also found the power usage of the electrostatic amps a little high for my liking (hey, it's probably silly to mention considering the cost of these high end headphones).

post #4295 of 4940
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Originally Posted by citadel View Post

It's a mixed bag. Does things better than both the Stax sr-009 and HD800, but apparently has a couple of "flaws"

(for the reviewer's (Tyll) taste).

 

The measurements would suggest outright flaws.

post #4296 of 4940

Just became a member here and want to thank you for this insane review. Though I am sure the pleasure was all yours!

 

I will never be able to afford even one item from your list but thank goodness I somehow manage to enjoy music despite this limitation!

post #4297 of 4940
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Originally Posted by RUMAY408 View Post

How about a Head-Fi community owned set of gear: As a group buy the top twenty HP's, several top end DAC's and AMP's, then rotate them around the "group."  For coming up with this brilliant idea I get the 1st week with the Orpheus.biggrin.gif


Here you go:

http://www.thecableco.com/Product/NEW-Headphone-Lending-Library

You can borrow up to 7 headphones simultaneously.

 

They advertise on InnerFidelity, never heard of them before.

Tyll even mentions them in his Abyss AB-1266 article:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/jps-labs-abyss-ab-1266-planar-magnetic-headphones-page-2


Edited by BenF - 7/19/13 at 9:31am
post #4298 of 4940
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Here you go:

http://www.thecableco.com/Product/NEW-Headphone-Lending-Library

You can borrow up to 7 headphones simultaneously.

 

They advertise on InnerFidelity, never heard of them before.

Tyll even mentions them in his Abyss AB-1266 article:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/jps-labs-abyss-ab-1266-planar-magnetic-headphones-page-2

Nice post I was totally unaware of this before. beerchug.gif

post #4299 of 4940
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Originally Posted by citadel View Post

YAY....another Abyss review:

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/jps-labs-abyss-ab-1266-planar-magnetic-headphones

 

 

It's a mixed bag. Does things better than both the Stax sr-009 and HD800, but apparently has a couple of "flaws"

(for the reviewer's (Tyll) taste).

 

I have actually done something very brave (or stupid). I have ordered an Abyss ab-1266.

Hopefully would pair well with my audio-gd nfb 27 dac/amp.

 

I was considering a Stax sr-009 setup but the investment I had to put in a very good electrostatic amp (in terms of cost, and  more importantly, desk space) made me go for these instead. I also would like a soundstage reminiscent of the HD800 with a planar magnetic bass.. I also found the power usage of the electrostatic amps a little high for my liking (hey, it's probably silly to mention considering the cost of these high end headphones).

Thanks for the link to the review!  I enjoyed reading Tyll's thoughts on the Abyss, for they are heavily in my radar right now.  

 

I have been really wanting to audition these cans, for, like you, I would rather not have to invest $5000+ for an electrostatic amp that is worthy of the Stax SR-009.  Please let us know your impressions.  When is your Abyss scheduled to arrive?  I hope that you love them!

post #4300 of 4940
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The measurements would suggest outright flaws.

I totally agree with you... However...some quotes from the article:

 

"...It would be easy at this point to simply say more distortion is worse, but that's not necessarily true. If it were, tube amps would be universally worse sounding than solid-state amps, which is simply not the case for many listeners."

 

AND

 

"..I suppose that may be the nature of world-class headphones: At some point the measurements and technicalities have to be thrown out the window; what really matters is the listening experience."

 

 

AND FINALLY

 

"Compared directly to the other cans, the SR-009 sounded a bit sterile and amazingly not as fast as the AB-1266. The bass on the Abyss was clearly more potent. The LCD-3 had slightly better bass response and neutrality than the AB-1266, but was somewhat muffled and withdrawn comparison. The HD 800 is the best imaging headphone I've heard, pin-point in it's precision. The Abyss had about the same sense of spaciousness, in fact, maybe more so given it's sparkly character, but it lacked the precise imaging of the HD 800. It fairly easily bested the HD 800 in bass response."

 

 

It does not mean we should throw out headphone specs and measurements, but I think there is a point where some measurements become negligible or may not really hurt the listening experience.

 

 

 

post #4301 of 4940
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Originally Posted by rparmar View Post

Just became a member here and want to thank you for this insane review. Though I am sure the pleasure was all yours!

 

I will never be able to afford even one item from your list but thank goodness I somehow manage to enjoy music despite this limitation!

 

Hmm... Never say never.  Some of the headphones on the list are relatively inexpensive.  The HE-400 and the DT800 both spring to mind.  You'll get there!

post #4302 of 4940

I know this has been already asked before, and probably even by me, but I'd love to see the JVC DX1000 on that ranking.
 

post #4303 of 4940

There is a pair of MDR-10s on the market in Europe via Adiogon.  

 

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/over-ear-sony-mdr-r10-2013-07-18-headphones-portugal-europe

post #4304 of 4940
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Originally Posted by jonathanvaljean View Post

Thanks for the link to the review!  I enjoyed reading Tyll's thoughts on the Abyss, for they are heavily in my radar right now.  

 

I have been really wanting to audition these cans, for, like you, I would rather not have to invest $5000+ for an electrostatic amp that is worthy of the Stax SR-009.  Please let us know your impressions.  When is your Abyss scheduled to arrive?  I hope that you love them!

Thank you! I hope I do enjoy them. They will come early next week.

 

I will give you my impressions. However, I cannot give you an accurate comparison to the sr-009. Only the HD800s, LCD3s and he-6.

post #4305 of 4940
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Originally Posted by pelli View Post

There is a pair of MDR-10s on the market in Europe via Adiogon.  

 

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/over-ear-sony-mdr-r10-2013-07-18-headphones-portugal-europe

ahahahahahah, is the effect of the crise in Portugal.

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