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post #3946 of 5020

Well, I'm not new by any means, but I'm new to cans and their history. I've been an IEM user for a long time. My favorite IEM's are the TWKS ones (Brainwavz B2 mostly, though I used Atrios for the longest time), so I favor neutrality/analytical sound  and a larger soundstage over a so-called "fun" sound signature. I suspect my higher frequency hearing  has been damaged or lost, so brightness doesn't tend to irritate me the way it does some people (and most bass-heavy or laid back signatures, I find boring)

 

So right now, I'm at four cans: Grado SR-80 (my favorite Grado and my first decent headphone...I have not liked Grados at all as I've moved up the line. PS500 was okay, but was basically just SR-80 with more bass to me, which isn't worth a $600 upgrade), Denon AHD2000 (was going to sell these due to listening fatigue, but they are the only closed back headphones I have, so I might start using them in the office), Audio Technica AD2000x (bought about a month ago...easy to drive from my portable amp set-up -Leckerton 6 UHA-, lovely midrange, great for rock music!) and now the HD800 (admittedly, I had been eyeing the Q701 for awhile, but the HD800 sounded like a higher end version of it, as it did highs and soundstage without sacrificing midrange, low end or imaging, plus I just found it way more exciting overall). Right now, I'm using my SR-80's for computer listening (youtube, videos, etc), AD2000x for "fun" listening and the HD800 for more serious listening (it's pretty intense to listen to...not fatiguing, but I'm not used to my ears taking in so much detail!)

 

The Leckerton does drive the HD800 pretty good, but they sound better either straight out of my vintage receiver or out of my Marantz SACD8004 headphone jack, which has a built-in headphone amplifier. So next wallet breaker will likely be a higher end amp.


Edited by GoldfishX - 6/16/13 at 11:15am
post #3947 of 5020
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The Leckerton does drive the HD800 pretty good, but they sound better either straight out of my vintage receiver or out of my Marantz SACD8004 headphone jack, which has a built-in headphone amplifier. So next wallet breaker will likely be a higher end amp.

Vintage receivers work wonders with the HD800's and those old Kenwoods have great headphone ouputs. Its a power thing, and the high impedance of those old machines. If I were you, I'd look to get a good dac to match up with your receiver instead of spending loads on trying different headphone amps. 

post #3948 of 5020
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I just want to say thank you for aiding one of the most financially irresponsible decisions I've made recently - purchasing the HD800. This article helped me justify the purchase, as a lot of these models have so many varying opinions and some (Orpheus, K1000), I was unaware of...anything better than the HD800 was out of production and the Stax SR-009 is way too expensive, plus electrostats can't be used with my portable headphone amp. There is also Hifiman, but I have a something of a distrust of Hifiman products (made-in-China related, plus I have heard about the build issues...Sennheisers are built like tanks!) and I highly favor analytical or neutral sound.

 

I have heard the Momentums and HD650 with general displeasure on both (veil-related), so it was nice to read about a Senn that didn't have this issue. So far, I am in agreement about the neutrality of the HD800 and that is what lead me to purchase them after my audition. The tracking of the individual layers is gorgeous and the soundstage is amazing. Anytime I am not hearing everything in a recording is because I wasn't paying close enough attention, I can't blame the headphone. Also, I do not find the treble to be an issue with my current setups...Only 1 or 2 tracks I've heard and it was related to the cymbals (the recording itself was unnaturally bright).

 

Despite the price, I have no buyers remorse at all, as I now have both a fantastic sounding and honest headphone and likely, it will be my last headphone that I ever need to purchase. That is peace of mind right there. Plus, I do not have to save for years and years to afford an electrostatic set-up. Now my next buyers-remorse related purchase will likely be an amplifier upgrade for the HD800.

You are welcome! hahabeerchug.gif

post #3949 of 5020

David,

 

Hopefully you can try out the new Abyss AB-1266 headphones and add them to your article (assuming they are good enough to be included, but at $5500, one would expect so). It would be interesting to see how they compare to the other high end planar magnetics, like the HE-6 and LCD-3. At the price point they're offering them, you would expect them to be one of the best pairs of headphones ever made. I can't imagine their value rating being above a C+, even if they sound as good as the STAX SR-009's.

post #3950 of 5020

It seems that the first review point that for the price it sucks.

post #3951 of 5020
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It seems that the first review point that for the price it sucks.

 

one of my friends that heard them a few months ago told me the same thing. stax 009 are better and abyss is overpriced.

post #3952 of 5020

Any reviewers step forward yet with initial listening impressions anywhere?

 

Just found an initial impression. Off to check it out!


Edited by Silent One - 6/17/13 at 2:55pm
post #3953 of 5020
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one of my friends that heard them a few months ago told me the same thing. stax 009 are better and abyss is overpriced.

 

I believe it does come with a stand, a balanced cable, an adapter, etc. so it is sort of a package thing, you're getting more than just headphones. I've read some of threads about the Abyss but there really isn't very much feedback about it, I'm sure in due time it'll get more.

post #3954 of 5020

Though, I haven't heard either, the $tax need amplification taking one's outlay much higher. Still, both cans are out of my range... that's Vacay money! biggrin.gif 

post #3955 of 5020

I would like to see that review as well. The overall article is very balanced in regard to price and performance. From what I'm reading, the Abyss is a similar, though lesser performer than the HD800 at 3x the price. And part of that is because of included $1000 cables!

 

If I had the funds, I would be willing to buy a $10,000 electrostat set-up, just because they have history on their side. I don't think I would feel the same about a planar.

post #3956 of 5020
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one of my friends that heard them a few months ago told me the same thing. stax 009 are better and abyss is overpriced.

and of course the fact that it looks absolutely horrible at the same time!

post #3957 of 5020
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and of course the fact that it looks absolutely horrible at the same time!


It's not that bad.... they just look like they have spiderman as a sponsor and thats it ;)


Edited by musiclife - 6/22/13 at 7:44am
post #3958 of 5020
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Originally Posted by jackskelly View Post

David,

 

Hopefully you can try out the new Abyss AB-1266 headphones and add them to your article (assuming they are good enough to be included, but at $5500, one would expect so). It would be interesting to see how they compare to the other high end planar magnetics, like the HE-6 and LCD-3. At the price point they're offering them, you would expect them to be one of the best pairs of headphones ever made. I can't imagine their value rating being above a C+, even if they sound as good as the STAX SR-009's.


I would certainly be interested to hear them. Hopefully later in the year, I will hear them at a meet:)

post #3959 of 5020
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Right now I have been dealing with an event out of left field, which has caused me to take a break from headphone listening for a time.

 

A few weeks ago, I attended a memorial day festival and it just so happens that there was a person there who brought fireworks.  Typically I have worn earplugs in places where I fear my hearing could be compromised, but on this day there was no loud music so I did not use them.  Well.....on this day, I happened to get a nasty blast to the ear which has caused some ringing in both of my ears.  As a working musician, I have dealt with occasional ringing before, but never like this.  Of course, on an emotional level I fear the worse, but I am hopeful that if I don't expose my ears to headphones/earphones/speakers for a while, that the ringing can subside.  I went to an audiologist yesterday and had my hearing tested and the audiogram showed that my hearing is above and beyond the norm (of course this was a relief).  They didn't test me past 12khz, but up to this point, my hearing was almost perfectly flat in both ears without any signs of hearing loss.  The doctor did not feel it was necessary for me to take a break from headphone listening, but what I do find is that when I listen to in-ears especially, the ringing becomes more noticeable and then I have the sudden urge to make the music louder in order to "fight" the ringing.  I don't want to do that, so I have taken it upon myself to withdraw from music listening for a time (hopefully short time).

 

Of course in the mean time I'm bummed out, but hopefully it will improve with time.  I would have thought it would have been much more reduced at this point.  To any who may have more experience with tinnitus than myself, I will mention here that the ringing is very very high.  I would guess somewhere in the 15-17khz range, but more than this, my ears feel a bit plugged up.

 

Anyway, hopefully it subsides shortly. I am hopeful:)

post #3960 of 5020

Good luck! I used to turn my music up "full blast" to drown out machines in the past, I still have ringing to this day probably as a result of that. I suspect my higher frequency loss is a result of that.

 

Just a thought...I tend to have ringing in my ears after listening to any headphone, but either none or very little after IEM listening. Not sure about the science, but those are the results I've experienced. That is another reason I have been slow to warm up to headphones. Weird how our ears differ there. Also, I do get ringing from the bass-heavy Atrios, but not from the B2.


Edited by GoldfishX - 6/18/13 at 8:45am
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