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Originally Posted by DavidMahler View Post

This part of your post made remember something that I have thought about in passing:

I've always wondered if it was possible to take something like a Beethoven symphony and then a song like Gangnam Style and literally prove beyond all subjectivity that the Beethoven work was a better-constructed and high quality piece of music.  The concept that all art and music has a subjective value puts a real damper on what art and music really is.  I'd like to believe that there are certain fundamental values that are absolute and not a matter of opinion.  

 

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One way to compare quality is that in 190 years no one on earth will even know who, what or where Gangnam Style was! It will be a trivia question and that is all.

Yeah I think whatever stands the test of time is the only way we can acknowledge a piece of music/art (or artist) is universally accepted as 'great'. If people still want to listen to a piece of music hundreds of years after it was written must mean something. And it has to be more than just nostalgia otherwise composers such as Bach wouldn't be appreciated now. After all he wasn't really famous at all during his lifetime, now he is hailed as the God of music by some classical musicians.  

But classical music has a long history and is well documented on an academic level. Pop music as we know it is still very much in its infancy, 200 years from now it may well be completely washed from any social memory. Or, names such as Elvis, Beatles, Hendrix, Dylan, Beiber (only joking) Maybe still appreciated as the best of that popular art movement in history.

 

You never know.. Gangham Style maybe considered genius hundreds of years from now! And the Lang Lang of the day may perform it at the equivalent Proms..  Because the way I see it, for all of the progress we are making in science and IT. We are seriously devolving in both artisitc and intellectual terms compared to a couple of hundred years ago. IMO the most recent philosophers or artists of the last century can't hold a candle to even the century prior in terms of what I would consider true greatness. 

 

Although the last century did produce Jazz. I'm thankful for that! 

post #3692 of 5020
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Although the last century did produce Jazz. I'm thankful for that! 

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post #3693 of 5020

Hi David,

 

have you listened to the Kingsound electrostatic HPs ? If yes, what are your thoughts ?

 

Thanks

post #3694 of 5020
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post


 

You never know.. Gangham Style maybe considered genius hundreds of years from now! And the Lang Lang of the day may perform it at the equivalent Proms..

I know exactly the devil's advocate approach you were going for so please know...I am not laughing at you when I do this (cause I play the same devil's advocate stuff in my head).... but etysmile.gif LOL!!!...If ever this were the future, I'd feel blessed that there is no immortality pill just yet tongue.gif

post #3695 of 5020
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post

Hi David,

 

have you listened to the Kingsound electrostatic HPs ? If yes, what are your thoughts ?

 

Thanks


I haven't.  I'd be very curious to hear them though.  I have a feeling they are quite the value.  Hopefully I will hear them at the next meet!

post #3696 of 5020
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Originally Posted by DavidMahler View Post

I know exactly the devil's advocate approach you were going for so please know...I am not laughing at you when I do this (cause I play the same devil's advocate stuff in my head).... but etysmile.gif LOL!!!...If ever this were the future, I'd feel blessed that there is no immortality pill just yet tongue.gif

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post #3697 of 5020
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

 

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You never know.. Gangham Style maybe considered genius hundreds of years from now! And the Lang Lang of the day may perform it at the equivalent Proms..  

I fervently hope not. For every Beatles, there were quite a few groups/musicians that did not "make it". I prefer thinking that these are one-offs and we revert to quality music evolving in the "right" direction. Well, at least, I'm allowed to dream.

post #3698 of 5020
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Originally Posted by DavidMahler View Post


I haven't.  I'd be very curious to hear them though.  I have a feeling they are quite the value.  Hopefully I will hear them at the next meet!

I really liked their biggest speakers, which has me rather optimistic.
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David: Considering the value you gave the AD900, I know there are a few of us wanting to get your feedback on whether or not that high praise was carried on in the AD900X, AD1000X, and AD2000X models. I'm sure they aren't a priority for you, but just know there is that interest.

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David: Considering the value you gave the AD900, I know there are a few of us wanting to get your feedback on whether or not that high praise was carried on in the AD900X, AD1000X, and AD2000X models. I'm sure they aren't a priority for you, but just know there is that interest.

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I asked if he would too. IIRC he said that it isn't his top priority right now, just as you said that it might have been. smile.gif

 

I would really love to see some impressions though.

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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post

David: Considering the value you gave the AD900, I know there are a few of us wanting to get your feedback on whether or not that high praise was carried on in the AD900X, AD1000X, and AD2000X models. I'm sure they aren't a priority for you, but just know there is that interest.

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David: Considering the value you gave the AD900, I know there are a few of us wanting to get your feedback on whether or not that high praise was carried on in the AD900X, AD1000X, and AD2000X models. I'm sure they aren't a priority for you, but just know there is that interest.

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I wish I could include them.  I really think if the AD2000X sounds as good as I imagine it would, it would be my highest ranking AT headphone.  But I will have to see if in the future I could include it.  I am doubtful.  I admire someone like lJokeri for being able to persevere with his wonderful comparisons for years....well into hundreds of models compared.  For me, I anticipate that I will ultimately be ending the comparison this year or next.  It will be sad for me when 10 years from now, most of the models included here will be old news, hopefully surpassed 10 times over.  But it will be fun to see where headphone technology ends up!

post #3703 of 5020
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Originally Posted by DavidMahler View Post

I wish I could include them.  I really think if the AD2000X sounds as good as I imagine it would, it would be my highest ranking AT headphone.  But I will have to see if in the future I could include it.  I am doubtful.  I admire someone like lJokeri for being able to persevere with his wonderful comparisons for years....well into hundreds of models compared.  For me, I anticipate that I will ultimately be ending the comparison this year or next.  It will be sad for me when 10 years from now, most of the models included here will be old news, hopefully surpassed 10 times over.  But it will be fun to see where headphone technology ends up!

It's a valuable service for someone to offer in that it gives those of us without direct access sort of baseline for comparison. Hopefully someone else will pick up the torch you carry so well.
post #3704 of 5020

David, what would you recommend that would compliment my 2 headphones(HD650 and DT880)? I was thinking the D7000, any others?

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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

David, what would you recommend that would compliment my 2 headphones(HD650 and DT880)? I was thinking the D7000, any others?


Hmm, it depends what you are looking for.  If you're looking for a closed alternative, the D7000 is a great choice and it does have a different (less neutral signature).  If you don't mind it being an open choice, I say try the HE-400.  It is colored, but its a different sound and it may be exciting to venture into the orthodynamic category.

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