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Hey guys, thought I'd post this in here. My Alpha Dog vs Paradox shootout just went live

Long-awaited video comparison indeed! Thanks!

post #692 of 744

where is everybody... snowed in? Its been a month since the last post, or is there a new thread?  :P

 

watching the vid i cant help feeling that the paradox won by a whisker ...tonalityyyyyy thats a biggie..for me at least...when it comes to vocals..

 

Or should that be soundstage when i listen to classicals...the alpha takes the cake then. 

Geez...

 

 

( meanwhile my Mikros90 is in the mail... let me work that thru my setup n see if it slays the HE-6..then i will hv some$$ for any one of the above...or both :P )

post #693 of 744
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where is everybody... snowed in? Its been a month since the last post, or is there a new thread?  :P

 

watching the vid i cant help feeling that the paradox won by a whisker ...tonalityyyyyy thats a biggie..for me at least...when it comes to vocals..

 

Or should that be soundstage when i listen to classicals...the alpha takes the cake then. 

Geez...

 

 

( meanwhile my Mikros90 is in the mail... let me work that thru my setup n see if it slays the HE-6..then i will hv some$$ for any one of the above...or both :P )


You want to talk soundstage wait until I do my 3 way shootout with the AD vs the Paradox vs the Audeze XC. The Audeze really images well

post #694 of 744
That's double///tripled the price? !
How about throwing in a Mikros90 that's mounting a resurgence..100bucks on amazon..the other end of the price spectrum tongue.gif
post #695 of 744
Thread Starter 

We're all still here, Lors.. it's been quiet cause Paradox owners are probably enjoying their cans instead of hanging out in our nerdy forum :tongue_smile:.

 

Luis actually let me hog one of his beautifully painted Paradox Slants for the past month or so.. and I absolutely LOVE how it sounds.  I'll have more thoughts up on it this weekend.  IMO, I think it's a truer upgrade (or otho version) of the 650 than the LCD-2.  It's a "fun/musical" can done right.  The custom pads Luis uses for his Paradox' (and Code-X) are simply terrific.. I want a pair on every one of my full sized phones now.  Heck, I might've hung onto the HE-500 if I had these pads!

post #696 of 744
A new custom pad? Does it fit the lcd2....ior its more he6size?
s it kiwi lamb ...what's the cost?
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post #697 of 744
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Luis actually let me hog one of his beautifully painted Paradox Slants for the past month or so.. and I absolutely LOVE how it sounds.

The only difference between the Slants and the original version is their pads, right? As I understand, Slants have custom made angled pads. Do they affect sound or just a comfort? 

post #698 of 744
Comfort wise, the original Paradox is one of the most comfortable I've ever worn. Can anyone post up a few pics of the Slants cups?
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

A new custom pad? Does it fit the lcd2....ior its more he6size?
s it kiwi lamb ...what's the cost?
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I'll check with Luis..

 

Originally Posted by remilio View Post
 

The only difference between the Slants and the original version is their pads, right? As I understand, Slants have custom made angled pads. Do they affect sound or just a comfort? 

 

I believe the pads are different (the Slant's pads are angled) and.. there's a gentle tuning change that renders the Slant slightly less neutral than the original Paradox.  The Slants, when driven ably, sound remarkably open, too.

 
Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post

Comfort wise, the original Paradox is one of the most comfortable I've ever worn. Can anyone post up a few pics of the Slants cups?

 

Yep.. the original Paradox' pads are awesome.. I love how they seal, but your ears don't get warm or sweaty.

post #700 of 744
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I'll check with Luis..

 

 

I believe the pads are different (the Slant's pads are angled) and.. there's a gentle tuning change that renders the Slant slightly less neutral than the original Paradox.  The Slants, when driven ably, sound remarkably open, too.

 

After speaking with Luis when I purchased the Slants, I can confirm this. The tuning change is a slight bass boost, providing some additional oomph in the lower end. Additionally, the tuning change expanded the soundstage so that it's larger than the original Paradox. Without listening to any sine sweeps and without seeing measurements, I estimate the bass boost is around 3-5 dB above neutral.

post #701 of 744

is there a pic of the slantpads in this thread? front n back fotos...anyone?

how much is it...if its not too expensive, i can imagine alot of people will be keen to get a pair for their other cans too.

post #702 of 744
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After speaking with Luis when I purchased the Slants, I can confirm this. The tuning change is a slight bass boost, providing some additional oomph in the lower end. Additionally, the tuning change expanded the soundstage so that it's larger than the original Paradox. Without listening to any sine sweeps and without seeing measurements, I estimate the bass boost is around 3-5 dB above neutral.

Well, expanded soundstage is defintily a good good. Bass boost? IMHO original version has just right amount of bass, especially when it comes to mid bass section. Slight increase in 20-30Hz area could be OK though.

post #703 of 744
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Originally Posted by remilio View Post
 

Well, expanded soundstage is defintily a good good. Bass boost? IMHO original version has just right amount of bass, especially when it comes to mid bass section. Slight increase in 20-30Hz area could be OK though.

 

I don't think the bass boost is quite as large in the mid bass as it is down lower. It seems to be concentrated pretty deep. It's most noticeable on songs that feature a significant amount of information below 50 Hz. There may be a little bit of boost in the mid bass as well, but I don't think it's as far above neutral as the sub bass. I'm not entirely sure, though. Like I said, this is a pretty unscientific estimate. Having heard other neutral-ish headphones like HD600 and MD 3.2, as well as many not-so-neutral ones, I can say that this headphone and the HD600 are the only headphones I've used that I never felt the desire to equalize. It sounds just about right to me, fwiw.

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Since Sennheiser has been bought into the convo, I wish someone with a Sennheiser 598 would chime in with a comparison. From what I understand the 598 is a pretty neutral headphone as well as the KEF M500. A couple of comparisons involving those two would be a nice add on to the Paradox database. If the Slants increased soundstage is only a bass boost in the lower frequencies I'm not sure I'm crazy about that idea. If Luis provided the pads at a not to hefty price I'd be open to maybe experimenting and seeing if they worked for me. Can anyone chime in whether the mids are effected on the Slants? I wouldn't want the mids to be warmed up and definitely wouldn't want the note weight to sound any thicker.

post #705 of 744
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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post
 

Since Sennheiser has been bought into the convo, I wish someone with a Sennheiser 598 would chime in with a comparison. From what I understand the 598 is a pretty neutral headphone as well as the KEF M500. A couple of comparisons involving those two would be a nice add on to the Paradox database. If the Slants increased soundstage is only a bass boost in the lower frequencies I'm not sure I'm crazy about that idea. If Luis provided the pads at a not to hefty price I'd be open to maybe experimenting and seeing if they worked for me. Can anyone chime in whether the mids are effected on the Slants? I wouldn't want the mids to be warmed up and definitely wouldn't want the note weight to sound any thicker.

 

Huh? No, the increased soundstage, as I understand it, isn't a result of the bass boost. If I understand correctly, the two differences between these and the standard Paradox are exclusive of each other. There's a bass boost and a change in soundstage/headstage properties, but I don't think either one is the result of the other. So the increased soundstage isn't just a bass boost. They're different things.

 

Again, I haven't heard the standard Paradox, so I'm not a very good judge in comparison to that headphone, but I personally don't find the bass boost intrusive at all. Luis' goal was to have a slightly bass boosted phone with a larger soundstage without making it inaccurate and, from what I can gather, without changing most of what the original Paradox was all about. I can't really tell you much more than that, because I don't know all of the minute technical details, so you may have to direct questions at Luis if you want an idea about how the midrange was affected by his tuning.

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