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post #587 of 721

For guys who think that Paradox is tense-sounding, I recommend to try VST plugins - bs2b + Sheppi. Really changes the feel of soundstage.

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Yesterday I did a side by side comparison between the Sennheiser HD800 and Paradox at a store. The HD800 was much more forward in the upper mids and a bit more forward in the treble. It had less mid-bass and impact. To my surprise the HD800 was more sensitive than the Paradox and didn't require as much power to drive, it sounded more than loud enough on my Leckerton UHA-6S.MKII. I thought it would require much more power since most people use huge amps to drive the HD800.

From my short listening session I'd say that the HD800 sounds more neutral than the Paradox - but the HD800 isn't exactly neutral. The HD800 should have less upper mids (I read that the Anax 2.0 mod fixes this which I will try) while the Paradox should have more upper mids and less mid-bass.

I ordered my own HD800 and its on the way to me now. I'll write a more detailed comparison once it arrives.

Edit:
For those curious, I demoed the HD800s in Headphonic in Perth, Australia. Headphonic is an awesome shop with a massive repertoire of headphones for demoing and very friendly staff. There's nothing like it in Sydney where I live. I also briefly heard the Beyerdynamic T90 which had way too much treble for me.
Edited by zowki - 7/6/13 at 3:45am
post #589 of 721

Just got a Paradox so I thought I'd share some initial impressions.

It's a bit blinged out with the black acrylic paint, the cups look very slick now. The suspension band also helps out. Not that the TR50 was that heavy to begin with but the feel and weight distribution is much improved over the stock rubber arc.

 

On to the sound. I tried to go the head-fi route of song annotations and gave up fairly quickly.

 

Rilo Kiley - Silver Lining

Oddly the first song I chose to listen to with the Paradox resulted in its worst showing. There was an annoying emphasis on sibilants, so anytime Jenny Lewis sang an "s" I had to cringe a bit. The initial listen was on an Sammy S3, when I tried this song on the Lavry DA11 the annoying emphasis was subdued and more tolerable. Note: you do not want to listen to these on a weak portable.

LCD Soundsystem - Losing My Edge

An odd song which boils down to a basic synth beat and a guy bitching for a while. But by god was the synth beat rendered cleanly, the bass is much improved from a stock TR50. It's quick and measured without sounding too dry, it is dead neutral from low bass through to the mids.

One interesting thing I found about listening to the Paradox is that it falls in to the pattern of unforgiving unflattering phones where you'll easily hear any deficits in the recording. This makes sense thematically, given LFF's background in mastering. While I'm not usually too bothered by the meager dynamics in modern recordings with the Paradox their dynamic "flatness" became all the more apparent. I had to switch to a couple of classical recordings to let the headphone stretch its legs.

During some Beethoven and Grieg I was able to appreciate the crisply rendered attack, the distinct instrument layering and spatial separation as well as the noise limits of the recording. Overall the soundstage was a bit small without giving up any precision. In that respect the HD800 still gives a greater sense of awe and space to classical. However the Paradox mod approaches some of the "effortlessness" of the electrostats in that there's no bloat.

 

Also the treble sounds fairly well extended, unlike an older Yamaha stat I used for comparison.

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Thread Starter 

Nice review, anetode..I've added it to the index.  Thanks!

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Could anybody who has the customized paradox comment on how long the lead time is? I understand the ones with the paint job, etc... take a bit longer than just the straight modded ones, and I would like to get a gauge on other people's experience. Thanks!

 

Cheers

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Could anybody who has the customized paradox comment on how long the lead time is? I understand the ones with the paint job, etc... take a bit longer than just the straight modded ones, and I would like to get a gauge on other people's experience. Thanks!

 

Cheers

I'm pretty sure its somewhere between 2-4 weeks. Also, due to the quality, my friend just got his HD800's painted and he said there absolutely fantastic. So I'm sure it goes the same for the Paradox.

post #593 of 721

I would contact Luis about lead times, he has a lot of things going on so I wouldn't be surprised if lead times are different now than they were.

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Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. I ordered mine 5 weeks ago and nothing's changed in my order status. Says my payment is still "queued" even though I've already been charged . I emailed the "contact us" address a few days ago and haven't gotten a response yet. 

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I'm pretty sure its somewhere between 2-4 weeks. Also, due to the quality, my friend just got his HD800's painted and he said there absolutely fantastic. So I'm sure it goes the same for the Paradox.

 

In my previous correspondences with LFF, he's said the custom jobs take at least 2 months and that the 3-4 weeks only apply to the standard paradox. My understanding is that his partner does the painting, then ships the phones to LFF for the modding, therefore things happen in batches, plus the overhead for shipping things around. Glad to hear that your friend was happy with the work! Based on the various testimonies in these forums, it seems that the overwhelming consensus is that the work is done with a lot of pride and care. I certainly prefer a careful job to a rushed one, even if it means waiting a little more! :)

 

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I would contact Luis about lead times, he has a lot of things going on so I wouldn't be surprised if lead times are different now than they were.

 

 

Yeah, it seems that he is very busy!

 

I just wondered what other peoples results have been :)

 

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Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. I ordered mine 5 weeks ago and nothing's changed in my order status. Says my payment is still "queued" even though I've already been charged . I emailed the "contact us" address a few days ago and haven't gotten a response yet. 

 

Hang in there, GoldenSlumbers! It's the exact same for me. I also emailed the "contact us" address a while back and did get a response. While I would  have preferred to be charged after the headphones shipped, I think it's important to remember that these are custom jobs and are done in low volume essentially as a hobby.

 

I think they are a bit busy at the moment and I try to limit my pestering to once every few weeks wink.gif  This is why I'm asking here to see what others' experiences have been.

 

Cheers!

post #596 of 721

Thanks, initio.  Knowing someone's in the same boat does alleviate some anxiety. I only ordered the basic version, so hopefully I won't have to wait too much longer.

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Hi Everyone!!!

 

First of all...sorry for my time away and for lack of personal communication since July 4th.

 

Long story short...many changes in my life (not good) very recently. I moved (again!) and have started on a new life path. This has been very stressful but I have managed. On a whim, seeing my status in life, a friend took me to Europe with her and I was there with NO communication for a while. Keep in mind...this trip was totally unplanned! I'm still trying to get back on CA time. The good news...I'm back and have come back to focus on my two jobs at the moment which are keeping me uber-busy. Yes...the number one of those is headphones/audio. The second one has NOTHING to do with sound, but if you consider yourself a dandy...contact me.  ;-)

 

Anyhow...I'm still unpacking and getting things back in order.

 

What has gone on since...

 

UPDATES:

 

1) Delays:

Yes...there are many of you out there and I do feel bad for making you wait. Rest assured though...the headphones are being worked on. HOWEVER, Ab Initio is completely right....our work is done with a lot of pride and care. A LOT. If you order a basic headphone, that will arrive on or BEFORE the time schedule provided IF I have everything in stock. I don't build them beforehand - they are built to order and almost everything is hand assembled except for the headphone pads. The custom orders are the ones taking a LONG time. Painting these to look the way they do is no easy task. Modding them to look like nothing was done to them is also NOT easy. A lot of time and care has been invested by my partner in selecting the correct paints and finishes. We even built a dedicated paint booth. City inspector approved and everything - we will be adding a new page to the website detailing the build process so you all see where the effort goes. These aren't painted on a kitchen counter! Even with a boatload of time and care, problems are still discovered and fixed. This takes time as well.

 

One example: The clear coat we were using would sometimes work flawlessly with some colors and less than well with others. We went through over 6 other brands and many color tests to find a new one that works much better and keeps the quality finish you find on the current customs. The great thing was finding the solution. The bad...upgrading to new equipment to use the new clear coat. All part of getting you guys something to looks and feels as good as it sounds with less of a turn around (we hope!). We also upgraded our drying system. 

 

Most of you who have custom Paradox headphones would be surprised to know that some were re-done up to 5 times to get a perfect finish. You can't tell when you get them but there has been a LOT of time invested into the custom orders. The same goes for our cables. 

 

I do try very hard to keep all of you posted but only have a limited amount of free time to do this. 

 

 

2) The NEW things:

We are diligently pushing forward with these. The closed headphone will debut soon. The open headphone has been a real pain to implement and the parts are VERY expensive. Due to the huge amount of work and expense involved in the open headphone, it will be a limited release. Details will be released on the website soon. If you are one of the lucky few who pre-payed for the new ones - consider yourself VERY lucky and I must thank you personally. If it weren't for you lucky few, I would not have continued working on the new open headphones.The wait shouldn't be very much longer. We are also going to be offering some new, cool things that won't break your budget.  :-)

 

3) Website: 

We have had some issues with it. Emails in particular have had a hard time getting through for some reason. We are working on this as time allows. Many of you can testify to fact that I am very quick at responding to PM's and personal emails. You can always contact me here or via my personal email address. I'm usually quick to get to my personal email. 

 

4) New Shop

With the new move comes the opportunity to finally have a small little workshop. This should allow me more space to mod headphones and hopefully, keep a bigger stock of parts for the mods. Keeping stock of certain things has proven to be VERY difficult in the past both due to scarcity and space limitations. Hopefully, this will not be an issue from now on. This new shop will also be pictured on the website so you can guys can see where the time and effort goes. 

 

As always...if any of you have any questions or concerns, feel free to contact me anytime...be it about music, headphones or just about life in general. :-)

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Sounds great, LFF! Thanks for the update, and best of luck with the new life and career paths!!
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I've got a question for you guys with Paradox headtime. How is the sound isolation?

 

My point of reference comes from the the closed Senn HD280pro and HD202 and the semi-open AKG K240studio. I've seen the chart on innerfidelity for the Paradox isolation, but I have a hard time relating that to anything realworld. I ask because sometimes I've have to deal with a noisy air conditioner or computer fan (or wind tunnel, or process chiller, or air compressor, or etc...). How about playing a drum kit?

 

Cheers!

post #600 of 721
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Originally Posted by ab initio View Post

I've got a question for you guys with Paradox headtime. How is the sound isolation?

 

My point of reference comes from the the closed Senn HD280pro and HD202 and the semi-open AKG K240studio. I've seen the chart on innerfidelity for the Paradox isolation, but I have a hard time relating that to anything realworld. I ask because sometimes I've have to deal with a noisy air conditioner or computer fan (or wind tunnel, or process chiller, or air compressor, or etc...). How about playing a drum kit?

 

Cheers!

My fan is 6 inches away from me, and it is a very loud fan, and I can only hear it if I strain to hear it.

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