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post #556 of 738
You should try the new headband he has on now. No bumps, so that issue has been fixed:D
post #557 of 738
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

You should try the new headband he has on now. No bumps, so that issue has been fixed:D

Yeah...there are only 7 of those headphones with the bumps in the pads. The pad with the bumps is actually very expensive but I found them to be comfy over time but not as comfortable as the standard pads. 

 

As far as those 7 are concerned...all the owners have been very happy with the comfort.

post #558 of 738
How would the alpha pads on the paradox affect the sound...further from the ears....lower the bass?
post #559 of 738
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Micro-review: Paradox-modded T50rp vs MrSpeakers Mad Dog 3.2

Disclaimer: this micro-review is based on 2 days of listening, with an approximate total of about 5 hours of listening across both days. Sorry but no further comments will be made, as I don't have enough spare time for further listening due to an upcoming local meet, other headphones that I'll have to listen to, and a busy personal schedule.

Equipment Setup

- Source component: Plinius CD-101 (CD player) (Signal Cable Silver Reference power cord, directly into wall)
- Analog interconnects: Emotiva X-Series RCA
- Headphone amplifier: HeadAmp GS-X MK2
- Comparison Headphones: MrSpeakers Mad Dog 3.2

 

Setup Note: Since the HeadAmp GS-X MK2 has dual 1/4" headphone outputs, I plugged both the Paradox and Mad Dog into the amp to be able to "hot swap" between them.

Equipment Note: Other currently-owned and previously-owned headphones are listed in my profile.

Evaluation Music

- Alison Krauss & Union Station - Paper Airplane
- Diablo Swing Orchestra - Sing-Along Songs for the Damned & Delirious
- In Flames - The Jester Race

- Infected Mushroom - Vicious Delicious
- Julia Fischer - Bach Concertos
- The Crystal Method - Tweekend
- Trifonic - Emergence

Comfort & Fit

The Paradox wasn't as comfortable for me as the Mad Dog was, primarily due to the bumps on the underside of the headband. Much like the bumps on the AKG K701/K702 headband have done to me in the past, the bumps on the Paradox headband created points of pressure on the head that just left a sore feeling. The Paradox's earcups also didn't envelop my ears as fully as the Mad Dog and made contact with the outer part, which wasn't entirely comfortable either. Either way, due to the Paradox's ergonomics, I didn't feel like I wanted to wear them for extended listening sessions (more than 30 mins) and frequently had to take them off.

The headband wasn't easy to self-adjust either, as I had to push it up manually in order for the sliding mechanism to not move. The elastic tie from the headband to the frame simply made it frustrating to get a self-adjusting fit, as it made the headband too resistant to move without manual assistance.

In contrast, the Mad Dog was far easier to just put on my head quickly and more comfortable to wear for long periods of time.

Sound

The Paradox had an overall brighter and less bassier sound than the Mad Dog, with maybe marginally more clarity. It seemed a bit thinner in the mid-range as well, but only slightly. Not that this was a huge difference though, as the two sounded very similar - sort of like that they were sonic variations on each other.

I initially liked the Paradox's treble quantity but the more I listened, the more inaccurate that I thought it felt. It made the violins sound borderline screechy in the classical CD that I used (Julia Fischer's), which is not how I know them to sound based on my experience with that CD on my previous electrostatic setup (OII MKI & BHSE). This turned me off to the Paradox for any further classical-music listening. The Mad Dog had more accurate-sounding violins to me, as it had less screechy treble.

The Paradox sounded good otherwise with the variety of music I tested it on, with appropriately impactful mid-bass on the electronica, very good overall clarity throughout, and a higher-than-expected amount of treble.

The biggest criticism I had against the Paradox was that it was quite tense-sounding. Sort of like the music was being pulled in every direction and not really allowed to freely flow in its own direction. Everything I played on it had that feeling regardless of music genre. This leads to my second criticism (not as big as the sonic tension), which was the relatively small-scale soundstaging. It didn't sound very wide or open and had a pronounced "closed-room" sort of soundstage, not the "open-room" sound of the Mad Dog. If I had to guess the cause of this, I'd probably attribute it to the smaller earpad thickness of the Paradox compared to the thicker earpads of the Mad Dog (since the thicker earpads put the drivers further away from the ears).

And though the two headphones both had a good amount of bass, certainly enough to satisfy me for electronica, I'd call the Mad Dog's bass deeper-sounding with more apparent extension (but slightly more "plodge"), and the Paradox's bass more impactful in the mid-bass, and "tighter" as well. In fact, the Paradox's bass actually reminded me of my Audio-Technica AD2000, virtually nearing the AD2K's snappy & agile mid-bass.

Conclusion

I ended up thinking that the Mad Dog represents a better value at its $300 price, and that the Paradox at $495 is less of a value - but is still better than some other headphones like the AKGs & Senns of the world. That said, I'm definitely more inclined to recommend the Mad Dog over the Paradox, due to both its more-balanced sound and higher level of comfort. Though the Mad Dog might not look like much compared to the Paradox (especially the custom-painted varieties), I think anyone who cares about balancing sound vs price first and foremost would be better rewarded with the less-expensive Mad Dog.

Finally, thanks to FlySweep for the opportunity to listen to this pair of the Paradox-modded T50rp, as I never would've bought one directly from Paradox Audio (or requested a pair from them).

 

 

I agree with this review.  As this is the same conclusion I came to a year ago when I compared the two along with the BMFs and the Thunderpants.

post #560 of 738

Where are the balanced MD reviews?

post #561 of 738

Great review Asr, thank you for taking the time! :)

post #562 of 738

I shipped the Paradox to the next person on the list today; should arrive on Wednesday.

 

FYI to the rest of the participants: please make sure to properly protect the headphones when shipping forward. When I received the headphones, the box was beaten slightly out of shape and the headphones were only in a thin layer of bubble wrap and tossed into loose packing peanuts. It was overall a very poor packing job that barely protected the headphones from either being crushed or messed up from the inside from the loose packing peanuts. It was very appalling to see the blatant disregard for someone else's headphones. In any case, I re-packed the headphones with all new packing materials and bagged & double-boxed them to ensure much better survival.

post #563 of 738
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I shipped the Paradox to the next person on the list today; should arrive on Wednesday.

 

FYI to the rest of the participants: please make sure to properly protect the headphones when shipping forward. When I received the headphones, the box was beaten slightly out of shape and the headphones were only in a thin layer of bubble wrap and tossed into loose packing peanuts. It was overall a very poor packing job that barely protected the headphones from either being crushed or messed up from the inside from the loose packing peanuts. It was very appalling to see the blatant disregard for someone else's headphones. In any case, I re-packed the headphones with all new packing materials and bagged & double-boxed them to ensure much better survival.

Who did you receive it from? It was not me as I shipped it to Rin. 

post #564 of 738

^ Rin, I assume. I never communicated directly with Rin though; for reasons unknown to me Inks was acting as an intermediary.

 

Btw, the 6/22 CO meet impressions thread has some other Head-Fiers' impressions of the Paradox vs Mad Dog (with probably more to come later): http://www.head-fi.org/t/669358/denver-2013-impression-thread


Edited by Asr - 6/24/13 at 11:16pm
post #565 of 738

Would anyone be interested in a HD650 vs. Paradox?

post #566 of 738
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Would anyone be interested in a HD650 vs. Paradox?

 

Why not! ;-)

post #567 of 738
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Would anyone be interested in a HD650 vs. Paradox?

 

Why not! ;-)

Time to get on Word Doc.! Beat out a couple of things right now, no sound yetwink.gif

post #568 of 738

Excellent!

 

I had the HD600 and have the Mad Dogs (which sounds similar to the HD600s, but with better bass and of course with the isolation and non-leakage I needed ;-))

post #569 of 738
I compared my Paradox and a Sennheiser Momentum, another relatively neutral headphone. There was absolutely no contest, the Paradox was clearly better than the Momentum. The Paradox sounded much more detailed, neutral, had better soundstage and comfort. The Momentum had more bass but it sounded loose and muddy in comparison to the Paradox.
post #570 of 738

what did u play them off with? 

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