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post #16 of 29
EQ? I like it sometimes but sometimes not. Who really cares what you do with your system to make it sound good to you? It's all about preference. And sometimes with certain equipment, you need EQ to make it sound better to your ears. I use EQ rarely actually, but that's mainly because I'm not very good at messing around with it.
post #17 of 29
there's no way the iPod or any other player is upsampling to a higher resolution when performing EQ functions. which means that it's introducing digital rounding errors. it's not a matter of hearing it "as the producer intended." it's more a matter of not degrading precious audio quality any further.
post #18 of 29
That's all very well in theory. Have you actually tried it on the class of equipment that most Head-Fi members have?
post #19 of 29
Uhmmm... errrmmm... wierd.

So this means, in essence, that you folks are adjusting the EQ for every damned song you listen to considering that would be the only true way to do it, on a song by song basis? Wow, and I thought just listening to music was enough. Silly me.

This is always a point of personal objectivity anyway. I might get the ER-4P Etys I've wanted for a long time now and decide that all of you are schmucks because they sound like crap *even though* everyone else says they're the best of the best. Same situation with Shure E5s, or any headphones - hell, that happens with any equipment period. It's always personal preference.

I'm not an audiophile, I don't believe such a creature exists. If you tell yourself you hear something on a regular basis, sure enough, your mind will fullfill your wish. I'm not interested in having a transcendental experience when I listen to music, I just want something to drown out the noise of the real world. Not much more than that. If someone else thinks it sounds like crap, so be it. What matters is how it sounds to each of us.

br0adband
post #20 of 29
Never really bother with EQ, just because I am not smart enough to get the damn thing hit the sweet spot. When it happens, I usually just think back why the heck I spent that much time configuring the EQ.

So till the time where I can get the sweet config easily, I will stay off EQ, but that's me.

-P
post #21 of 29
the reason i dont--or cant--use eq is that it doesnt alleviate the problem i am trying to correct... most of the time it just makes everything sound dull. it makes sense just to boost or decrease a certain freq and its neighbors by a few db to fix certain deficiencies... but no matter the device, i always end up with duller sound... so no eq just sounds best
post #22 of 29
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Originally posted by bangraman
That's all very well in theory. Have you actually tried it on the class of equipment that most Head-Fi members have?
what's that supposed to mean? well, i know for one that it's something that's taken into consideration in *making* all the music that Head-Fi members have, if it was made within a decade of now. that's why mastering engineers do their work at 24 bits or above.
post #23 of 29
(LATER) oh, bangraman, i thought you were insinuating my equipment was of less quality than other Head-Fi-ers. now that i reread your post, it seems like you're saying the opposite, maybe. i do agree that digital multiply rounding errors can be masked by the equipment you're using to listen. but i still feel that i don't really hear quality in the embedded digital EQ i've been exposed to. i've only heard the iPod's for the sake of this discussion, and i'm not really that happy with it... i leave it off. other portable players that i haven't been exposed to might have better EQ, i dunno.
post #24 of 29
I was generally referring to outboard digital EQ used on desktop CDP's, not portables when you mentioned what you did. Portable EQ... hell, portable sound is a compromise. Digital rounding errors, etc become irrelevant when you're actually listening to a mid-fi system through even a low-end studio-use EQ. To say anything else is frankly typical 'audiophile' snobbishness. In the narrow context of the iPod, I agree the iPod EQ generally sucks and it's only the subtle ones which work in any useful way.


However, holding up the iPod as an example of not to EQ is like holding up George Bush as an example of the quality of Yale and Harvard graduates.
post #25 of 29
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Originally posted by bangraman


However, holding up the iPod as an example of not to EQ is like holding up George Bush as an example of the quality of Yale and Harvard graduates.
LOL, I just had a mental image of milk shooting out of my nostrils with that one
post #26 of 29
Mp3-players certainly aren't the pinnacle of audiophile equipment, but the degrading of sound from EQ in portables isn't really subtle, my experience is that it's easily detectable. It's something that can disturb me even with casual listening using MX500, with E3c it's just awful. Personally I'd much rather live with whatever small weaknesses my headphones exhibit rather than letting whatever corrections I do make the whole freq. spectrum worse.
post #27 of 29
nothing else for it, we'll just have to get someone to make a good little outbord amp with a high quality6 band parametric EQ built-in with a graphic display of the settings. Oh, and crossfeed, and maybe a toaster too.
post #28 of 29
Quote:
Originally posted by smeggy
nothing else for it, we'll just have to get someone to make a good little outbord amp with a high quality6 band parametric EQ built-in with a graphic display of the settings. Oh, and crossfeed, and maybe a toaster too.
What about the kitchen sink? And the coffee pot?



br0adband
post #29 of 29

how does this ipod compared to the newer models ? i just found out that my ipod mini and ipod nano 4th gen still works. i just wondered if they are still on par with current gens...

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