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post #1 of 29
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I'k looking forward to buy an hdplayer - is the ipod mini a good choice in terms of sound quality ?
post #2 of 29
It's the same as the iPod as far as I can tell. Same advantages, same disadvantages. Do some searching and I'm sure you'll come up with lots of feedback
post #3 of 29
The Ipod Mini is said to have very good sound quality. The only HD player I've read of that is supposed to have superior sound is the IHP 120/140.
There are several comparison reviews posted in the "links" section at the ipod studio
post #4 of 29
I'd say in current equipment terms it's very good. The power's there as well. But in a (rather unfair) ~192K VBR vs CD test, the D-E555 (the only older CD I can compare with right now) certainly walks off with Best Sound.


I am also puzzled at how they haven't bothered to address the distortion issues with the EQ. I would have thought the Mini introduction would have been a good way to bring either some reprogrammed presets or to actually fix the issue. It seems not. Not unusable by any tretch of the imagination, but still a minor irritiation nevertheless.
post #5 of 29
The EQ is a valid complaint with the iPod... beyond little things that are personal preference, just about everyone agrees the EQ presets are junky. Why not just provide a 5-band EQ? They can make stupid games, calenders, note readers... but this is a music player first, right? Why not devote more developement to that end. It must be possible since the presets are there...

maybe by iPod v.6... (please?)
post #6 of 29
I can mentally compare my iPod and my NJB3 and I believe that the iPod had a cleaner and more laid back sound. The iPod sound is very nice and most of the differences between the sounds of the mp3 players can only be decided by personal preference. I don't believe there's one best sounding player.
post #7 of 29
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Originally posted by austonia
The EQ is a valid complaint with the iPod... beyond little things that are personal preference, just about everyone agrees the EQ presets are junky. Why not just provide a 5-band EQ? They can make stupid games, calenders, note readers... but this is a music player first, right? Why not devote more developement to that end. It must be possible since the presets are there...

maybe by iPod v.6... (please?)
I can agree with this entirely
post #8 of 29
You people actually use EQ?



br0adband
post #9 of 29
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Originally posted by br0adband
You people actually use EQ?



br0adband
No, not in the long term. I do occasionally use bass boost with my iPod and my ER-4Ss, but only for classical music (for which the bass doesn't clip). Why? Perhaps the only justification I need to make is that the bass is much more powerful when I put my TAH in between the iPod and the Etys. Why shouldn't I be allowed to make an effort from time to time to duplicate that sound with the iPod alone?

When I had my Zen, I used a Custom EQ to tame the low-treble brightness and mid-bass bloat of my KSC-35s.

In the end, I spend very little time with EQ. In a portable setting or with cheap headphones, I may dabble with it a bit because the drawbacks of EQ (very obvious audibly otherwise) are less detectable in these circumstances. But, when listening critically, the EQ of the iPod is cow dung, just udder crap.

Edit: Sorry, forgot about the relevant part . I haven't had the chance to do a long-term evaluation of the Mini, but initial impressions are that it is very close to the iPod's sound, just like everyone has said.
post #10 of 29
No one is using the EQ? While I will be the 1st to complain about the EQ settings - don't you find the sound flat with no EQ? (although no EQ does provide the most crisp sound)

I use the 'rock' setting most of the time. It sure messes up the high frequencies like cymbals but it adds depth to the sound and does much for the bass.

No great setting at this time but I admit the sound of the ipod is growing on me.
post #11 of 29
I'm a purist, so it's always flat or no EQ whatsoever. I listen to it the way the recording engineer put the masters down. Of course whatever device I'm listening to at the time will add it's own flavors and corruption of the original signal, but that's just the fact of digital audio.

I never liked EQ in any way when I'm listening with headphones, and using EQ when listening through speakers is pretty rare as well.

br0adband
post #12 of 29
"I'm a purist so I listen with no EQ"? I fell off my chair laughing.


What about the phones you're listening with?
What about the sonic colour of the portable you're listening with?


Just because the EQ is flat on your portable doesn't mean it is actually flat or is in any way similar to what the mastering engineer heard.


Similarly, I think we've discussed headphones enough to know they add a significant amount of colour (or EQ) to the sound. Are you listening with the same phones that the mastering engineer used?


I use EQ. And I use it with a lot better gear than the iPod. And of course on the iPod I'll hunt for an EQ preset that (nearly) works with the music I'm listening to. I'll only not use EQ on the iPod if I'm too lazy to find the ideal preset (which is admittedly often)
post #13 of 29
Yeah, I'm sorry but the whole 'no eq' argument is a lot of bull to be honest. The *only* time you would hear it as the recording engineer intended is if you had his ears and his equiptment. Oh, and his take on what it should sound like. You think the recording engineer didn't use eq to adjust the recordings? Seriously, this is an old 'Audiophile' snob thing that should have died a death long ago.

All audio equiptment has a different sound signature and though some may not need any eq, most of it does to sound it's best. Sadly all we normally get is graphic eq or Bass and Treble, neither of which should be allowed anywhere near quality audio gear. Parametric equalisers are the only good option and they are few and far between.

Humps, dips, recess, boom, dark, bright etc. These are all terms we are familiar with and basically tells us our stuff does need eq to correct the problems. Eq done correctely is not an audiophile crime (though you'd think it was) it's just another tool to make things sound better.
post #14 of 29
I'd die without EQ.

I can blow my ears through with bass, rip them to shreds with treble, and bloat up various frequencies, all to liven up my listening experience!
And not to mention one of those normal EQ settings to actually make your music sound better...
But still.

I screw with EQ all the time. In noisy areas, the outside noise just kills the effect of whatever bass my phones are giving me (Koss Plugs aside), and boosting up the treble allows me to hear the details, just not the fullness. When I'm in a quiet area, I usually lower the mids, and boost the extremities...
You get the point.

I just find that music sounds better with an EQ... 18 band preferably (foobar ), but that's just me.

I heard that iPod doesn't sound as good as other players like iRiver iHP, Rio Karma, Zen Xtra, or NJB3. But that's only what I've read. They didn't have any phones in the Apple store I went to...
post #15 of 29
I wouldn't mind EQ at all, if there was one that was even decent out there on a portable device. Any portable device with an EQ I've ever tried is just not up to par, it's usually way below acceptable. So personally it's not so much I have anything against EQ in theory, it's just that in reality it leaves a lot to be desired.
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