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post #61 of 89

These look interesting, Please can someone tell about 2 things which will decide if I import these to the UK or not...

 

1) How much bass do they have? How about if you EQ the bass, can they produce a decent amount? If you could give me any comparisons to the headphones in my Sig that would be good. For example the Momentums when I EQ the bass have just about enough bass for me (with EQ) the HD650 have enough mid bass for me (with EQ) but no sub bass. D2000 have plenty of bass even with a small amount of EQ. So I like quite a lot of bass, pretty much every headphone I buy I EQ the sub bass below 70hz by anything from 2-8db because I like sub bass for EDM....

 

2) Is the soundstage poor / small ? I like a decent soundstage size, it does not have to be massive, but if it is small or not very good then I will probably not like them.

post #62 of 89

You could also pose the same question here:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/666284/mrspeakers-mad-dog-impressions-and-discussion-thread

 

(that thread is more active... just in case ;-))

 

Oh, and these were my thoughts at the moment (i.e. we didn't had the Alpha Pads at the time...)

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/633696/the-mad-dog-appreciation-thread#post_8957108

 

Also, the latest (last?) version of the Mad Dogs, 3.2, seems to have brought up a bit more bass. I'm still on 3.0 so... wouldn't know how much they have improved.


Edited by gelocks - 6/26/13 at 2:08pm
post #63 of 89

How large is the soundstage on these?  I know they are a closed can but my K550 has a wonderful soundstage for being a closed can.  My hope is that the MadDogs will be as or more spacious sounding than the K550 for the stock T50RP.

post #64 of 89

I ordered a K550 a while back, loved them, but just had a hard time getting the seal right with my glasses. I just received my Mad Dogs, and to my ear the soundstage is just as big. I really love them - they're like the K550 in comfort and detail in sound, but with added bass (but not too much at all!) and less picky-ness.

post #65 of 89
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Originally Posted by dablues View Post

I ordered a K550 a while back, loved them, but just had a hard time getting the seal right with my glasses. I just received my Mad Dogs, and to my ear the soundstage is just as big. I really love them - they're like the K550 in comfort and detail in sound, but with added bass (but not too much at all!) and less picky-ness.

I came here to ask the question that you just answered perfectly! I am having the same problems with the K550 even after stuffing the pads with cotton pads. The seal is slightly better and I feel like the soundstage opened up a bit but I still can't keep a seal and I don't find them that comfortable. Is it true that the Mad Dog will offer a good soundstage in a closed headphone as well? I wonder if its soundstage will still be comparable to the K550s with pad stuffing. I am tempted to order a Mad Dog and return it if it doesn't meet my standards. Are there ways to improve the Mad Dog's soundstage?

 

I guess what I am asking is whether or not I will like the soundstage (I feel incredibly redundant so sorry about that)! Then again, I'd probably have to hear it to know for sure!

post #66 of 89

I love my dogs, very close to Hifiman HE-500.

I am using currently the dragonfly as desktop rig, will buy a new dac amp but haven't decided which one yet.

The only thing is that I don't like the stock cable, so I bought 2 new ones and have them re-terminated by Brian at BTG Audio, one short with 1/8" plug an another larger with 1/4" plug. Now the dogs are perfect..

 

post #67 of 89

How do you know what version you have and how do you know when are the updates?

post #68 of 89

At the apex of the leather strap is a sticker with the version number; it's out of site unless you look for it.  We started adding these a few weeks after 3.2 started shipping to make versioning easier.  We haven't updated the product since April.  We only update if there's a significant improvement to make to the sound, and since I bet you'll ask, no updates are in the works.  

post #69 of 89
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Originally Posted by mrspeakers View Post

At the apex of the leather strap is a sticker with the version number; it's out of site unless you look for it.  We started adding these a few weeks after 3.2 started shipping to make versioning easier.  We haven't updated the product since April.  We only update if there's a significant improvement to make to the sound, and since I bet you'll ask, no updates are in the works.  

Haha, you read my mind there. Thank you so much for the quick response! 

post #70 of 89
Can anyone compare them with the Beyerdynamic DT880?

NobleHiFi says "The DT880's bass is a little leaner than the Mad Dog, but it kicks harder. Overall the detail of the DT880 is more crisp and the upper ranges have a lot more presence and sparkle, but this makes the Mad Dog a lot more forgiving of higher volumes, where they really open up in the bass and soundstage."

I listen to music reasonably quietly, from a mobile device at work, so I need headphones that work well at lower volumes.
post #71 of 89
My last mini meet was with another Orange County student. His two "main" headphones were the HD650 and the DT880.

At that time, he was mostly listening to the DT880. He wanted to compare the Mad Dogs to the DT880 and so did I.

We tried the Mad Dogs off the Magni/Modi stack, the ODAC+O2 combo, and the Emotiva a-100. The DT880 off the first two and the Bottlehead Crack.

I ended up feeling content that I had chosen the Mad Dogs, and he was seeing a Mad Dog in his future.

Try and demo a pair if you can.

While they are good at lower volumes, they start to really shine with extra volume.
post #72 of 89
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Originally Posted by Kamakahah View Post

My last mini meet was with another Orange County student. His two "main" headphones were the HD650 and the DT880.

At that time, he was mostly listening to the DT880. He wanted to compare the Mad Dogs to the DT880 and so did I.

We tried the Mad Dogs off the Magni/Modi stack, the ODAC+O2 combo, and the Emotiva a-100. The DT880 off the first two and the Bottlehead Crack.

I ended up feeling content that I had chosen the Mad Dogs, and he was seeing a Mad Dog in his future.

Try and demo a pair if you can.

While they are good at lower volumes, they start to really shine with extra volume.

Thank you, that's much appreciated. Can you compare the sound, and the comfort? I'd be driving from a weak source, can get a little amp but it's easier if I don't have to.
post #73 of 89
I have the C&C BH for a quick portable amp that I use occasionally with the Mad Dogs on trips or on-the-go. While it certainly can provide enough volume, and sounds decent, it doesn't compare to a more powerful dedicated amp.

I'm sorry I can't give exact details of sound differences. I wish my memory was that good from weeks ago. What I recall is is the fullness and body that the Mad Dogs had while The DT880 sounded thinner and a bit harsher in comparison.

I actually did like the DT880, but I think it would be too fatiguing for me personally.

I should have took some notes to remember, but I was enjoying the overall experience.
post #74 of 89
Forgot. The DT880 obviously wins on the weight difference, but the Mad Dogs pads are extremely comfortable like head pillows. It's hard to say how it would be for you since head size and shape will matter.
The Mad Dogs can get warm during long sessions during the summer, but a quick minute break can fix that. I can't speak for the DT880 in that regard.

Mr. Speaker's offers a great money-back guarantee. If you can't demo one but really want to know, go for it.

My only concern is that you mentioned not having an adequate amp. That's really a bummer since I do find a difference. There are a lot of good amps or even vintage amps that can be had for around $100.
post #75 of 89
Thanks Kamakahah. I have a PPA with a DAC in it that I use with the LCD2 at home, fed with optical cable from the PC, but at work I really just want something comfortable and closed that blocks out noise and makes the music sound good. A900's were perfect, other than size. I could take the PPA in, but I don't want that stolen too, so any amp I have at work needs to be small enough that I can easily throw it in a drawer at the end of the day. In practice I'll probably not bother with an amp, as my desk is usually pretty full. I have looked at a JDS Objective2 or his little CMOY, I'll see how they are on the S4 and on the PPA.
 
Are the mad dogs really heavy? I don't mind really. Also, related to comfort, I have a smaller head and I see it's easy to bend the headband to fit.
 
The money back guarantee applies to the USA only, but Dan implied he would honour it for me in NZ by email. You also pay a %10 restocking fee ($30, totally fair), plus return shipping is about US$90, so an audition would cost me $120. This is why I'm doing my research carefully! Reasonably convinced they're what I want, so will probably go for it :)
 
Appreciate your help :)
 
Tim
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