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It also manages to help me avoid doing things that need doing, LOL!!!


The endless honey do list

post #812 of 6492
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Fwiw, that's one of the things I love about the M500's - the bass. To me, it does the job described above beautifully. 

 

Pataburd says this in his M500 vs 90 comparison:

 

I'm actually surprised to read that the 90's have a deeper bass extension, because the M500's bass seems to extend very low to my ears. Then again, maybe I am confusing the beautiful sub-bass that comes out when required as "extension".

To my ears, the M500's approach to deep bass ultimately degenerates into boominess, while their treble ascent ultimately rolls off/fades by comparison with the Mikros 90.  For listeners who want to stay "in the middle" of everything, the M500 will satisfy.  But for me, and my listening preferences, the KEFs quickly became boring.  Mid-centric headphones that lose hold of the very upper and very lower reaches. 


Edited by pataburd - 2/1/14 at 6:36pm
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To my ears, the M500's approach to deep bass ultimately degenerates into boominess, while their treble ascent ultimately rolls off/fades by comparison with the Mikros 90.  For listeners who want to stay "in the middle" of everything, the M500 will satisfy.  But for me, and my listening preferences, the KEFs quickly became boring.  Mid-centric headphones that lose hold of the very upper and very lower reaches. 

 

I have never felt that the m500 bass gets anywhere close to boomy, but fair enough.

post #814 of 6492
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

 

Fwiw, that's one of the things I love about the M500's - the bass. To me, it does the job described above beautifully.

 

Pataburd says this in his M500 vs 90 comparison:

 

I'm actually surprised to read that the 90's have a deeper bass extension, because the M500's bass seems to extend very low to my ears. Then again, maybe I am confusing the beautiful sub-bass that comes out when required as "extension".

 

The bass on the Mikros seems more clear and defined because of the treble presence....it shines more light on the bass area and you can hear into it better.

 

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I have never felt that the m500 bass gets anywhere close to boomy, but fair enough.

 

I agree.

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I have the Amperiors, which I really like, always been curious if anyone knows how they compare to the Momentum (not as expensive, I expect there will be some improvements in the Momentum, but never found anyone with the comparison).

Thanks for the input, by the way.
I have the Amperiors too, and I really like the Bass, what are you using to amp them ?, external DAC ?  I use an RSA Predator, either with my iPod, or thru the built in DAC via USB and my PC or netbook as a source, running foobar2000 Kernel streaming with ASIO4ALL v2

I pretty much use 2 DAP's an iPod Touch, and a FIIO X3. I generally don't listen straight-I have good line out cables, and run them into an ALO National, then comes the headphone. Have JRiver on my PC, but don't listen much straight from the computer. The whole reason I've gotten so into the headphone world is the freedom to have my DAP/AMP/CANS with me anywhere, bed, dog walking, work, doesn't matter. I have a good living room stereo, eventually got tired of being "imprisoned" in the "sweet spot", need to move (comes with being an old ADHD kid, I guess). Being shackled to the computer isn't much more appealing, though there is a bit more flexibility with headphones as there is no "sweet spot". Still, need to be free...(as I feel life should really be a musical, I'm posting the song I should break into about here...)

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post #816 of 6492
I like these ML, but my MA900 isn't going ANYWHERE. The MA900 is quite different than most open cans. Its presentation and soundstage is jaw dropping huge. The subbass definitely s doesn't extend to ML levels, but it extends lower than most open cans do.
post #817 of 6492
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The bass on the Mikros seems more clear and defined because of the treble presence....it shines more light on the bass area and you can hear into it better.

 

 

I agree.

Disagree.

The M500, to my ears, do not extend as far down as the MLs, nor remain as flat, nor resolve the deep bass (nearly) as well.

This is linked, I think, more to the Mikros 90's generally superior resolution from top to bottom.

This superiority of resolution could be, to some, more evident in the treble, but the statement "you can hear into it [the bass] better" can also mean the bass from the Mikros 90 is also simply better resolved.  The midbass warmth/glow on the KEFs may also be partially eclipsing the deeper bass registers, but on my good gear, the KEFs don't seem to get nearly as deep as the MLs.


Edited by pataburd - 2/2/14 at 2:34pm
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I have never felt that the m500 bass gets anywhere close to boomy, but fair enough.

Before owning/auditioning the M500, I had already taken a liking to the Mikros 90, so I went into the KEF/ML comparison with a set of criteria where I sought to specifically compare the two item-by-item.  In my mind already, the MLs had struck a major chord, in that I felt that their sound signature was already largely to my liking, and that they were going to be--in my mind--a tough act to follow.  

 

The M500 and the Mikros 90 are basically different in their respective presentations.  The KEFs develop a smooth, warm middle from the music, whereas the MLs tilt out more toward the extremities and strive for balance.  As I had mentioned before, the KEFs should cater more to the "HE-500" type listener and the MLs more to the "HE-6" type listeners.  The KEFs sound more "poppish"; the MLs more "audiophile" to my ears.

 

That said, however, I will still give the MLs the decided edge in terms of sheer resolving capacity.  


Edited by pataburd - 2/3/14 at 2:46pm
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They probably don't. But the FR on the M500 is basically even (between the frequency extremes), I certainly do not hear a boomy bass.

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Am considering the Burson Soloist as a SS companion for the Mikros 90.

Anyone have any experience driving the MLs with the Burson?  

Not sure whether tubes or SS is the better route, although my gut says "SS".


Edited by pataburd - 2/2/14 at 2:39pm
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Large sense of space and great sense of air with KMF Audio (SS) amp (w/EVS-modded Oppo DV-970HD/Virtue Audio Nirvana interconnects).  Separation and clarity are excellent.

Using the DakiOm prototype Fm-203 feedback stabilizer (not as good as the newer F(m)-273) and the trusty SID mat.

 

Music:

John Lee Hooker: The Best of (MCA)

Antonio Carlos Jobim: Songbook (Verve)--Shirley Horn, "Once I Loved" (beautiful)

Tito Puente: Puente Caliente! (Concord Picante)

 

Home (late) to the Bada PH-12 and the Brimar CV-1988.

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😎Nice ...mine. Sounds nice from every source😊
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Up until past midnight (again).

Swapped in the Raytheon 6SN7GT (copper posts) for Bada driver.  Usually use the Raytheons for the rear tubes.  This one worked very well up front.  Very even with excellent separation.

The three-part harmony on "Pretty as You Feel" was so well sorted out and anchored in 3-D space (best I've ever heard this track).  Gracie Slick's vocal on "Triad" was flawless. 

Am trying to imagine what a ML circum-aural might sound like.

 

Music:

Jefferson Airplane: 2400 Fulton Street (RCA)

Pat Metheny Group: Letter from Home (GRP)

Henri Mancini: Classic Movie Themes (RCA)

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does the raytheon give u more body/bass to the sound?

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Been reading that a lot of you used amps with this.  If I'm only listening to music from my laptop and phone, should I look elsewhere at this price point?  The best ones I have currently are Gemini HSR-1000 (Takstar Pro 80) and JVC HA-S500, with Yamaha HPH200 on the way.

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