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post #736 of 6488
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Originally Posted by ACDOAN View Post
 

I have been a fan of ML quasi-dipole electrostatic speakers for the last 20 years. I started out with the little Aerius I and then the SL3. These speakers are amazing for their fast and accurate reproduction of recording music as long as they are paired with proper amplifier(s) and speaker position. They are not perfect and not for every one. I would not listen to ML with heavy rock, rap, techno...but rather with Classical music and Jazz. Fans of Diana Krall, Patricia Barber, Madeleine Peyrous...etc will enjoy the larger than life vocals and the accuracy separation of the instruments.

 

Having said that, I would not expect heavy bass on these transducers from ML. I have a pair on the way from Amazon for $90.00 that is such a good deal that I cannot pass on. I know what I would expect from ML house sound even though I do not like the entry level ML home theater speakers. Cannot wait to put Diana Krall, or David Sanborn for a test drive with the Mikros 90.


I have always LOVED the big ML's , they are truely in a class by themselves and will suck you in, they sound so liquid and alive, I wish I had listened to Patricia Barber, I love her too, what a combo great seasion. Sadly I never owned a pair, but they are my dream speaker without a doubt.

post #737 of 6488
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post
 

Treble grain could be an artifact of the stock cable IMHO.  Since I installed the Pipeline, any grain--when it comes across at all--is usually traceable to the recording or upstream gear changes (like tubes, interconnects, etc.).  

 

As many of us have observed, the Mikros 90 do scale up well.  And as several of us have reported, perceptible improvements follow from a cable upgrade with these headphones.  Graininess is one characteristic that I did notice with the stock cable, but not with the Pipeline.  It could boil down to basic differences in the way you and I perceive treble, too.

 

Anyway, I am curious to hear how the FiiO RC MH1 affects the MLs' output.   

 

Not in any way intending to put my "HYPE" on here, but to me the Mikros 90 resolve detail just as well--no, better--than every other set of headphones that have come through my stable.  Ditto for clean, deep, textured bass.  I found that even my HE-6--as good as they were--could not go as deep and stay as flat, clean and dynamic as the MLs.


The stock cable has a slight veil or grain to it compared to the excellent Pipeline, which is more open and airy, the highs are silky with the pipeline, noticeably better than the stock in a direct comparison with some of my favorite songs, the Pipeline made the music more engaging, most likely because of the better transfer with a silver /copper conductor, less restriction means better signal transfer, thus clearer, truer sound.

post #738 of 6488
I would go to RadioShack tommorow and get it but I couldn't fit it in the socket. I don't know how to wither it down.
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Just remember that do not wear Armani suit with Payless shoes. Whenever you can afford the ML mid to top tier lines, go all the way . Pair them with a fast amp as some Krell mono blocks and you are in heaven. Do go cheap on these ML, you will be disappointed.My Sl3 can drop down to 1.7 Ohm, you will need Krells or Pass to get the best out of these MLs.

post #740 of 6488
Get the fiio rc mh1 cables ...excellent fit and sound to boot😎
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There's also the HD1 cable. Which?!
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Mh1😊
post #743 of 6488
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Originally Posted by ACDOAN View Post
 

Just remember that do not wear Armani suit with Payless shoes. Whenever you can afford the ML mid to top tier lines, go all the way . Pair them with a fast amp as some Krell mono blocks and you are in heaven. Do go cheap on these ML, you will be disappointed.My Sl3 can drop down to 1.7 Ohm, you will need Krells or Pass to get the best out of these MLs.

I would second that observation--with regard to sourcing and amping the Mikros 90, which I strongly believe to be of the same pedigree as ML's uper-tier outboard speakers.  Am on the verge of ordering the Oppo BDP-105 and having Ric Schultz at EVS do his all-out mods with it.  (I can use the money collected from the sale of the HE-6 to partially fund this venture.)  And I am confident that the MLs can and will rise to the occasion.  Scaling up is where the MLs can also distance themselves from the competitors. 


Edited by pataburd - 1/31/14 at 11:09pm
post #744 of 6488
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Originally Posted by mochill View Post

Get the fiio rc mh1 cables ...excellent fit and sound to boot😎

FiiO/Pipeline showdown startin' next week!  : )

When the HeadphoneLounge UPOCC silver and UPOCC copper cables come a driftin' inta town, things er gonna get real int'restin'.  :smile_phones: 

post #745 of 6488

Would the V-moda cable fit?

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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post

I would go to RadioShack tommorow and get it but I couldn't fit it in the socket. I don't know how to wither it down.

You might be able to take the MLs with you to the store and trial-and-error fit with what Pipelines are on the shelf at RS.  When the Pipelines do fit, it's seems to be a very very tight fit.  You would probably have to have MLs with a hole at the upper end of its production tolerance and a Pipeline with an input barrel diameter at the lower end of its tolerance.

 

Ask PredatorZ.  He modified his Pipeline to fit.

 

Can't say on the V-Moda cable's suitability with the Mikros 90.


Edited by pataburd - 1/31/14 at 11:10pm
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How how was those cable pataburd😊
post #748 of 6488
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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post
 

I understand that, but for those of us who want to hear stock cable of the martins vs stock cable of the re700s, I have to compare it equally.

 

Then once I get the pipeline, I'm putting it on the martins, but also on the re700s to make a fair comparison.

 

Thanks for letting me know!

 

I can't use the re700's cable to replace the martin logan's cable. :(

 

But to make it even fairer, I'm using martin's cable on the ath to hear a difference.

 

EDIT: no difference...though I might hear a bit of a difference in treble's....detail I think. That's it.

V,

What are your source and dac/amp?

I found that with my reference gear, the MLs' "scaling-up-well" factor also made differences easier to recognize.  When a/b-ing with the M500 on my lower end sources/amps the comparisons were closer.  But when linked up with what I consider my upper tier gear, fully tweaked out, the Mikros 90 showed appreciably larger sonic gains and the gap significantly widened. 

The Mikros 90 are rated at 26 ohms, but they can be pretty demanding.  My Bada usually sounds thin and edgy with low impedance loads, but the MLs feel right at home and blossom with this amp.


Edited by pataburd - 1/31/14 at 5:34pm
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Silver +1%gold seems like my next cables😉
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The FiiO is scheduled to arrive sometime next week.  HeadphoneLounge cables ETA TBD.


Edited by pataburd - 1/31/14 at 11:12pm
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