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post #586 of 6486
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post

 

They don't sound bright to me.  Sure, they are brighter than something like the HD650.

 

Which is why I qualified that by saying that my main headphones are D2ks, which are rather dark.

 

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Well, I'm playing Spotify files, from an iPad and I don't have any tolerance for pain...and these sound pretty perfect to me.

 

Your experience <> what everybody will experience. 

 

True, but he asked for additional opinions, and that was my impression of them.

post #587 of 6486
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Originally Posted by LimeANite View Post
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I haven't heard the M500s (or any of the other headphones you own), so you won't really have a point of reference, but these are my impressions:

 

General: These NEED an amp to shine, and it should be a relatively good one.  They didn't synergize particularly well with my EF-2A, but were pretty nice with the Matrix Mini-i.  Playing directly out of my tablet, laptop, or Cowon S9, they lost a lot of bass quantity and definition.  They also need good source material - 320kbps mp3 or lossless - that's well-recorded to start with.  They are uncomfortable.  No getting around that.  The clamping force is very strong, though that can be alleviated somewhat by stretching the headband.  I have a pretty small head, and I was in pain after about an hour or two of listening even after stretching the headband.

 

Rock: Rock and metal are probably this headphone's greatest weakness.  The treble is pretty bright (keep in mind, my main headphones are the D2ks, so I may be skewed here), and guitars can sound screechy.  Cymbals can overwhelm the song.  Recording quality is a big issue here - many rock artists don't have the greatest recordings.

 

Prog Rock: Can sound good, depending on what you're listening to (see the last couple pages for my impressions of Rush).  Same issues as above (treble, recording quality) apply.  Vocals are nice though.  Pink Floyd sounded great.

 

Electronic: I don't have too much electronic, but it sounds pretty good one these.  Bass isn't huge, but it has nice impact.  Vocal trance sounds pretty good.  Electronic music is generally recorded pretty well, which helps immensely.

 

If you've got good source material, a good amp, a liking for treble, and some pain tolerance, these will be perfect.  While I initially trashed them, after listening to them out of a quality DAC/amp, I can see why they've gained the following that they have.  When the planets align just right, these can be phenomenal.  It's just that in my case, they don't align very often.  I was looking for a headphone that could be driven by a mobile device and I have lots of poorly-recorded music (that I enjoy for other reasons), so these don't work for me.

 

 

Thanks a lot LimeANite. Even through I understand that everyone hears differently, your impressions helped a lot. 

post #588 of 6486
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Originally Posted by LimeANite View Post
 

 

Which is why I qualified that by saying that my main headphones are D2ks, which are rather dark.

 

 

True, but he asked for additional opinions, and that was my impression of them.

 

Sorry...my post sounded a little confrontational.   

post #589 of 6486
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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post
 

RE700 shall be mine!  I'll compare it to the ML if anyone's interested.  I have to sell off one of my cans though to get it…  Its a sad day at the farm.

 

On another note: tell me how the discomfort and style issues have gone away (well, some of them).  The best quality about these is IMO the midrange.  All of the sounds in the midrange rely on the treble and bass for a more complete sound.  Since these take care of those areas, the midrange is fantastic.  I wonder how good a better cable would make them.  Well, no matter, since I don't have the money, since I have to buy the ATH RE700 ASAP.

I feel the same way with the martin logans, lol. Take your time buddy.

 

The best quality on the re700 is the bass and midrange imo. Though the martins can compete I believe, but I hope the re700 beats it since it's $150, lol.

post #590 of 6486
My cardas em5813 came in today and boy are the nice😎 sounded schitty at the first 2hrs and by the third hour the midrange poped out and bass became tight and treble poped out as well and I was like this>>>>>>😲
post #591 of 6486
Already listen for five hrs in max but my mikros are back on burn in station for two days 😃
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I listened to the un-remastered "Brothers in Arms" the other night.

 

No glare, No "ear-splitting" sonics.  In fact, the disc sounded incredible, with attention to recording queues and a vibrant sense of 3-D space I had never heard before (the background vocals on "So Far Away" were haunting in their transparency and effusiveness).

 

Last night, I listened to Donovan's Greatest Hits--old, '60s, un-remastered Epic recordings.  They sounded very good, too, especially the bass detail and articulation which I had never really heard before, either.   

 

Once more, I am convinced that those who are experiencing sonic anomalies--like unbearable treble harshness--with the Mikros 90 have resolution issues with their associated gear.  Garbage in/garbage out.  I have said this already, but will say it again: the Mikros 90 will reveal everything, including your system's comparative weaknesses and strengths.  Unlike most other headphones, which may color the sound spectrum, "forgive" bad recordings and/or camouflage deficient source gear. the MLs tell you exactly what is there.  Look at my signature.  The MLs have replaced the HE-6 in my reference rig and I have absolutely no regrets at all.  

 

Every session with these reference class headphones is revelatory.  The ML's prowess at detail retrieval is the most complete I have ever heard: not just in rendering "low level" detail--I will call this "mechanical" detail (the textured stroke of Wes Montgomery's thumb across the guitar string, for example), but also in rendering subtle tonal hues/shading, enunciating fine dynamic contrasts, generating an interactive 3-D space and discriminating acoustical nuances as well.  For me, the Mikros 90's superb rendering of detail always manages to ultimately serve the musical core.  For me, a detail-oriented listener who is apt to stray into the "can't see the forest for the trees" way of listening, the MLs' primarily musical nucleus always keeps me on track.   

 

I understand that we all hear differently and that we all have distinct listening tastes and genre preferences.  And I am saying that, from my perspective, the Mikros 90 give the listener more of everything: the desirable and the undesirable.  They need at least good gear in front of them to begin to show their manifold capabilities.  If you are a "midrange-centric" listener, they are probably not for you.  If you don't insist on accurate, extended treble and bass, they are probably not for you.  If you want headphones that stuff every genre/recording into a bassy, "fun" envelope, the MLs are probably not for you.  If you don't wish to hear deeply into the recording details and thence extract the musical substance, these are probably not for you. 

 

Last night:

Joe Williams: "Essential Joe Williams" (Verve)

Donovan: "Greatest Hits" (Epic)

Emerson, Lake and Palmer: "Trilogy" (Shout Remaster)


Edited by pataburd - 1/28/14 at 1:34pm
post #593 of 6486
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 

ehhh EARTH TO WAYNE!!! Has anyone ever posted that they SOLD their CHinaman HE-6s cuz of those M500s, welp have they??? ;) hehehe That's what i thought. :)

 

Anywho those M500s already kicks these grandpa Logans in the arse on looks and comfort alone despite i have not tried any of them and i am sure those M500s can more than hang with these sonically, so no need to feel inadequate meng. :tongue_smile:

 

 

^ Oh nice, it seems it ain't even THAT bad of an issue then. Probably got some cheapo cables at home that i can try these with. Will see how it goes...... Thanks for the input!!! :beerchug:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/688549/sold-hifiman-he-6-w-headphonelounge-solid-core-silver-up-occ-cable-sold     :smile_phones:

 

I previously sold the M500 after a/b-ing them with the Mikros 90.  For my ears, alongside the MLs, the KEFs sounded "mid-fi" at best.  The guy who bought the M500 from me seems to like them, though.  The M500's midrange is smooth and lush but lacks the detail, clarity and balance--i.e. ultimate realism--of the Mikros 90's, IMHO. 


Edited by pataburd - 1/28/14 at 1:36pm
post #594 of 6486
Rc mh1 coming in today😎
post #595 of 6486
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post
 

Maybe Pataburd can do a cable shootout after they arrived...:P

how much are these cables.. 

Definitely.

Think I will go with both UPOCC silver and copper v. ET-4.

The ET-4 does a very respectable job (compared to the stock cable) for $20.

Am interested in hearing PZ's impressions of the Toxic Cable with the Mikros 90, too.  : )

Call Ted's Headfood for a quote/custom order.


Edited by pataburd - 1/28/14 at 1:32pm
post #596 of 6486
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post

 

Anywho those M500s already kicks these grandpa Logans in the arse on looks and comfort alone despite i have not tried any of them and i am sure those M500s can more than hang with these sonically, so no need to feel inadequate meng. :tongue_smile:

 

Have the man taken out back, horse-whipped, tarred and feathered, then banished from Head-Fi.


Edited by pataburd - 1/28/14 at 8:22am
post #597 of 6486
Perfect fit😲...the cables works ...buy them now peeps.they also makes the mikros90 louder😲.😎
post #598 of 6486
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Originally Posted by mochill View Post

Perfect fit😲...the cables works ...buy them now peeps.they also makes the mikros90 louder😲.😎

Is the FiiO RC-MH1 directional?  Because it looks like the metal plug end is too big for the Mikros 90.

The H-F review that I read does not cite notable improvements for the FiiO over the stock (V-Moda) cable it replaced, besides louder presentation (which you note) and a warmer "bassier" presentation--it's all PCOCC copper.

May give it a try just to hear how the MLs respond.

The Pipeline is silver-coated copper, with solid core, individually wrapped (I believe) conductors, which I think is good.

mochill, what are your listening impressions of the FiiO v. the stock Mikros 90 cable?


Edited by pataburd - 1/28/14 at 1:51pm
post #599 of 6486
I'm burning them in 😎
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So I've been talking on and off with pataburd about these as I'm looking for a portable and want to get some more impressions. Here's what I've previously owned and what I thought of it. Let me know if you think these are for me

 

1) Sennheiser HD650 - Love the warmth and darkness. I like how airy and smokey the mids are as they make the vocals sound absolutely beautiful. The midbass is pretty spectacular although it could be a wee bit tighter at times and the treble is nice and non fatiguing although sometimes I want more extension and sparkle.

 

2) AKG K702 - I did not find these to be bright or strident at all like some people do. I found the mids when powered with a tube amp had nice body but on solid state I found them to be a wee bit thin. I loved the soundstage and imaging of these and thought they had an adequate amount of bass.

 

3) Denon D2000. Fantastic bass albeit a bit boomy. Treble was nice and well extended but I found the mids to be a bit plastic sounding which annoyed me a bit at times. 

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