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post #5521 of 6492
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Originally Posted by chailee80 View Post

Just got my mikros 90s in the mail this morning and all I can say is wow! Straight out of the box the clarity just blew me away. The mids and highs are absolutely fantastic, the bass is a little bit lean for my tastes but a quick eq boost easily fixes that. Comparing it to the facelift version of the beyerdynamic dt1350 I just got yesterday the mikros 90 has initially been more impressive.


Glad you are pleased...same for me...clarity and detail is unmatched by any other headphone I have owned.  Hope you continue to enjoy them.

post #5522 of 6492
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Originally Posted by zombywoof View Post
 


Glad you are pleased...same for me...clarity and detail is unmatched by any other headphone I have owned.  Hope you continue to enjoy them.


Considering they only cost $90 they're unmatched by anything i've heard at that price. Even the mikros 70's which were around the same price are nowhere near as impressive.

post #5523 of 6492
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Originally Posted by chailee80 View Post

Just got my mikros 90s in the mail this morning and all I can say is wow! Straight out of the box the clarity just blew me away. The mids and highs are absolutely fantastic, the bass is a little bit lean for my tastes but a quick eq boost easily fixes that. Comparing it to the facelift version of the beyerdynamic dt1350 I just got yesterday the mikros 90 has initially been more impressive.

Welcome to the select Mikros 90 brotherhood.

Definitely one of the best-if not THE best--set of headphones I have ever had the pleasure to hear and enjoy!

post #5524 of 6492

PM-1 UPDATE:

I initially strapped on the Oppos with negative bias and concordant expectation based on some of the reviews I had read beforehand, but by the end of the [long] evening and about 20 discs later, I had a difficult time taking them off and putting them away.

 

I listened to the PM-1 almost exclusively with the velour pads.  A warmer, fuller [and somewhat meeker] sound with the velour- versus the lambskin pads, IMHE.

 

Preliminary a/b versus Mikros 90 [Yes. I realize that the MLs are closed portables.] :wink:

The Mikros 90 certainly held their own, but the decisive point came when I started playing older '70s recordings.  The MLs were less forgiving than the Oppos [and/or not as well matched with the Lehmann BCL].  However, with the Oppos "forgiving" was not synonymous with syrupy/euphonic, bland or homogeneous.  The PM-1 presented these recordings with remarkable deftness, clarity, resolution, and a disarming ease.  This phenonenon reminded me of my first foray with the Denon AH-D2000: older "classic" rock and pop recordings, rather than sounding harsh or thin, sounded musically rich and well-recorded.  [The PM-1 resolve appreciably better than do the D2K, BTW].

 

PM-1 bass: rounded, warm and liquidy, with a judicious measure of midbass weight and lick, excellent micro-dynamic texture and good reach [though ultimately not as dense, percussive and cavernous as the Mikros 90]. 

 

PM-1 midrange: pure, refined, detailed--nuanced in its resolution--and [again] liquidy. 

     [The PM-1 emphasis is on refinement, while the Mikros 90 emphasis is on candor--a more "stark" (but with a positive spin) sort of clarity--with a bolder front and more overall midrange musculature/"carry".  I realize that this is an odd observation, given the fact that the PM-1 are themselves "midrange-forward" in character. But this may be due to the ML's well-integrated treble edge which lends to the Mikros 90's more even-handed--and excellent in its own right--midrange advance.]

 

PM-1 treble: delicate, refined, nuanced and smooth--for me "smooth" does not connote a muffled or blunted treble; "effortless" or "easy" might be a more apt descriptor here.

     [The Mikros 90 have a more rawly energetic/vivacious treble, which seems to better support/carry musical passages rhythmically, at least for me].

 

Some additional [treble] commentary:

The Mikros 90 [Stock Pair #3/opened May 2014, w/HeadphoneLounge UPOCC copper litz re-cable] better suit my listening tastes with respect to their high frequency presentation and dynamic/ambient reach, but I was able nonetheless to make the adjustment to the PM-1's "golden mean" or "optimal modicum" way of keeping practically everything intricately balanced.  I would not classify the Oppos as "rolled off" in the treble per se, as-in "lacking extension" or as-in "lacking detail", but I would describe them as being reticent/reserved in the upper reaches, yet all-the-while remaining highly resolving and remarkably refined.

 

Given my longstanding predilection for an "airy" and treble-leaning [many would call it a "bright"] sound, this is precisely where I feared--based on those negative facets of the reviews that stayed in my mind--the PM-1 would grossly disappoint me.  But I am glad [and, frankly, surprised] to find myself truly enjoying the Oppo's treble response, even though it is neither what I expected nor even what I thought I would otherwise have preferred: a welcome serendipity!

 

PRaT:  The Mikros 90 get the clear edge in this department, the MLs offering a more robust, sinewy and straightforward dynamic attack.  I really enjoy these unassuming little closed, portable gems!

 

At any rate, I think I could live with the Oppos for a while.  They are a worthy full-sized, open complement to the Mikros 90, and the first set of orthos that have really managed to turn my head in quite some time.

 

MORE [God willing] later . . . . 


Edited by pataburd - 6/13/14 at 9:20am
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u can always have a countercan to the ML ;P

any comments on the SOUNDSTAGE ? 

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Ever since Wayne linked a Soundcloud piece of BATMAN music, i have been using that to test the low rumble on my cans. It is quite addictive...even though on first listen, it sounded dark, monotonous..with some excitement.

 

Today i bought the original Batman cd...and the improved clarity n 3D sound effffffeeeeeccct is such a blast. I can hear the diff musical interplays layered deep into the soundscape, on a big dark theme running thru the cd. Amazing piece of work. Like peeking out deep into the dark sky, waiting for surprises to happen at diff spots in the heaven.

If u can, go n get a copy.

 


Edited by Lorspeaker - 6/11/14 at 8:43am
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post
 

u can always have a countercan to the ML ;P

any comments on the SOUNDSTAGE ? 

Lors,

The PM-1s' soundstage is variable/recording dependent [similar to the MLs' "true-to-the-recording" character].  Some recordings [like the '70's hit "The Night that the Lights Went Out in Georgia" by Vicki Lawrence] filled a comparatively large volume of space; others [like "Venus" by Shocking Blue] filled not-so-large a volume.  I never got the sense, though, that the soundstage was consistently small or large, as a characteristic being imposed by the Oppos, but rather as being recording-specific.  Front-to-back depth is well rendered and well ordered with the PM-1.  But for "organic" sense of 3-dimensionality and "natural" rendering of space, I still might tentatively give the nod to the Mikros 90.

 

Did my listening last night with the Lehmann BCL amp (w/gain set at 0).  Will swap in the beta 22 tonight and compare amp synergies. 

 

I think I had read a review somewhere about the PM-1, suggesting that the Oppos had a tendency to sound congested, and did not resolve complex passages well.  My experience was to the contrary.  The first movement of Tchaikovsky's Symphony #6 ("Pathetique") came across with excellent resolution: spatially, tonally, timbre-ally, dynamically, and with powerful emotional impact, really involving.  

 

Funny.  I initially ordered the Mikros 90 not knowing what to expect--and not expecting much at that--and the MLs blew me away.  I ordered the PM-1 with a negative bias [based on the reviews out there], fully expecting to dismiss them in short order, but they are really surprising and delighting me after the first listen.  "Go figure."

 

Will try to a/b a little more tonight.  Mikros 90 Stock Pair #3 should break in for another 50 hours or so before they officially go into the ring with the Oppos.  Might match up the bhazard Stock Pair #1 or the Spacey/Bassy Mod for tonight's bouts.


Edited by pataburd - 6/11/14 at 12:57pm
post #5528 of 6492

AHHHH!!!

Modded Mikros 90, Auvio cable, office rig w/KMF amp and The Bee Gees' "Night Fever".

The Logans, in conjunction with the Auvio, rule this venue!


Edited by pataburd - 6/11/14 at 12:58pm
post #5529 of 6492
sounds like a keeper for u tongue.gif
post #5530 of 6492
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post

 

Funny.  I initially ordered the Mikros 90 not knowing what to expect--and not expecting much at that--and the MLs blew me away.  I ordered the PM-1 with a negative bias [based on the reviews out there], fully expecting to dismiss them in short order, but they are really surprising and delighting me after the first listen.  "Go figure."

 

Will try to a/b a little more tonight.  Mikros 90 Stock Pair #3 should break in for another 50 hours or so before they officially go into the ring with the Oppos.  Might match up the bhazard Stock Pair #1 or the Spacey/Bassy Mod for tonight's bouts.

 

Too bad for your wallet!

post #5531 of 6492
The curse of misattribution. Sigh.

Oh, I've decided not to get that cable made. Looks like it's recession time here, so it's all window-shopping frame hereon until this storm has blown over.
post #5532 of 6492
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Originally Posted by hatefulsandwich View Post

The curse of misattribution. Sigh.

Oh, I've decided not to get that cable made. Looks like it's recession time here, so it's all window-shopping frame hereon until this storm has blown over.

 

Are you able to ban yourself from headfi? That might be helpful!

 

Hope she blows over quickly for ya.

post #5533 of 6492
Oh, I'm not actually too bad on head-fi. I've got myself a few toys this year, so I'm okay. I might let myself get one of the new VSonics for my birthday, but otherwise my gear is all good stuff and I have absolutely no burning need to upgrade, side-grade or otherwise expand my collection.

We've just got some people here who want to be paid more for pulling rocks out the ground than many high-skilled professionals earn (certainly more than I've ever earned as someone who's fully educated and possesses higher-level technical skills). It's putting massive strain on an already unhealthy economy, so... Time to tighten the belt a notch and pinch some pennies I'd perhaps normally be freer with. Nothing to be dramatic about, life is still plenty good and I enjoy interacting on head-Fi even without a constant stream of purchases smily_headphones1.gif.
post #5534 of 6492

PM-1 Update:

 

Ran the PM-1 with lambskin pads for treble emphasis, and swapped in the beta 22 amp for more macro-dynamics.

The Mikros 90 match better with the BCL than the beta.

Another romp with my '70s collection.  Nice!

Oppos are more resolving and smoother than the Mikros 90.  The PM-1 are incredible at resolving very low level detail with nuance, luster and liquidity.  

The Mikros 90 still impress me as fuller-/"righter" sounding and better balanced overall, though, given my listening tastes.


Edited by pataburd - 6/12/14 at 4:26pm
post #5535 of 6492
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Originally Posted by hatefulsandwich View Post

Oh, I'm not actually too bad on head-fi. I've got myself a few toys this year, so I'm okay. I might let myself get one of the new VSonics for my birthday, but otherwise my gear is all good stuff and I have absolutely no burning need to upgrade, side-grade or otherwise expand my collection.

We've just got some people here who want to be paid more for pulling rocks out the ground than many high-skilled professionals earn (certainly more than I've ever earned as someone who's fully educated and possesses higher-level technical skills). It's putting massive strain on an already unhealthy economy, so... Time to tighten the belt a notch and pinch some pennies I'd perhaps normally be freer with. Nothing to be dramatic about, life is still plenty good and I enjoy interacting on head-Fi even without a constant stream of purchases smily_headphones1.gif.

Like the bumper sticker says:"Work hard, millions of people on Welfare are depending on you."

The present state of the economy makes the Mikros 90 all-the-more valuable an investment.

:beerchug:

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